Alonso the most unsportive driver

[theforce]

For a start, Petrov fully deserved it for being a complete a-hole. There was no need for him to be so aggressive, he wasn't fighting for the championship and Alonso's race wasn't with him. Fair enough the Renault drivers were fighting for points but at least they could've been considerate.
I hope he's not in F1 next year.

Secondly, I love when drivers show some aggression, proves they're human. I don't want Fernando to be loved 100% by everyone, If half the people love him and half the people hate him, then he is a star, "words of a sleazy music manager".

Go Fernando, use this frustration as extra motivation to absolutely annihilate your opposition next year.

[aroutis]

Read the forum topic, its about unsporting, Michael was unsporting at times, more so than Alonso, so how can Alonso be the most unsporting?

You just like to ignore facts and history because it suits you

I do not agree that Alonso is unsporting, if you cared to read my reply (first one), you would've known that already.

There are drivers far more unsporting than Alonso, Senna being one of them, but your problem lies with Schumacher.

Now, about who ignores facts , let's just not go there.

[Greig]

I do not agree that Alonso is unsporting, if you cared to read my reply (first one), you would've known that already.

There are drivers far more unsporting than Alonso, Senna being one of them, but your problem lies with Schumacher.

Now, about who ignores facts , let's just not go there.

So why are you having a problem with Schumacher being mentioned when it comes to unsporting? Senna was before my time, Schumacher wasn't so I mention things I know about Schumacher was way more unsporting than Alonso, yet so many on here defended him and still do.

[Milla]

"Vettel was beside himself with joy, Alonso might have been wiser to wave congratulations at Petrov for a job well done, but instead he gesticulated rudely, which did nothing for his reputation as a good sportsman. Winning well is good but as Felipe Massa proved in Brazil two years ago, losing well is something that wins more respect." Joe Saward

totally agree

[scuderia_nano]

Indeed, indeed...

Just out of curiosity, RedRebel - how long have you been following this sport for?

Let me introduce you to the "F1 finger collection" (non-exhaustive) :

Raikkonen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxAtRyzOPc (in practice, if I am not mistaken)
Zonta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esw8pgOZg28
Frentzen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pielx7Fds0s
Massa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MIu0OUv5jo
Coulthard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXZJOs-87wQ
Heidfeld: http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?ne...%3DpkD35mz8Rxg
The F1 middle finger collection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBMPX...02E2A5&index=4

And my favourite, by far - Alonso: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2edk...eature=related I always found it hilarious that these guys are more concerned about showing their displeasure than about the fact that they are in the process of crashing at high speed!

And going beyond the line, not necessarily F1, some road rage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9nLE...eature=related

Well I know whose fan the person is. MAYBE.

But still,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogC1w...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xJuJFy1OxA

[Tifosi]

Alonso was angry and frustrated at Petrov. So what? That has nothing to do with being unsporting. Read the definition of the word "Impolite" instead.

It was also taken out of the context of why he did it anyway and used against him by people with an axe to grind, which is pretty shoddy in itself.

Deliberately ramming/trying to ram someone off a track to win a championship is unsporting and the two most lionised drivers in the history of the sport both did that.

[UPz]

Q. Did you speak to Fernando after the race?

VP: No. I think he was angry. So I think there is no reason to talk to him right now.

Q. But he made a gesture towards you on the slowing down lap?

VP: Yes, but I would be in the same condition if it happened to me. If I was in his situation I would also be angry but he should be angry with himself or with his team because they did maybe the wrong strategy or something.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88300

[F2007]

[QUOTE=Poltergeistes;638268]Most Kimi fans are weird like Kimi, they like to think they are cool, but they are just weird.QUOTE]

2007 was kind of cool. ;)

2005-2010 there is only one WDC won by Ferrari driver. Who is he???
Just a reminder.
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But Kimi aside, Alonso belongs to Ferrari its pretty clear to me. What they did 2010 to Massa should have done to him already 2008. The fuel Q game then was a stupid harmful game.

I said before this season that Massa is going to fall hard, coz now they cant do tactics over teammates in Q format (with Rob Smedley), and all the other front runners are also running on fumes at Q. And It just went clearly like that all season long. Alonso, Kimi and many others are clearly a lot faster than Massa with race pace and when Massa aint in first rows, its always game over for him.

2011 will be a mix match. RB doesnt do as many mistakes they did 2010, but there is KERS which Kimi used nicely at SPA09. So Ferrari might just have the lost piece to puzzle. But ofcourse Domenicali just isnt as good as Todt was. So mistakes just keep on coming.
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About the fist: It kind of summed up the whole race. Pressure was just too much to handle. Alonso freezed behind Petrov. He has climbed the field whole year but didnt when it counts.
Vettel did Kimi style racing, and was the hero of the day.

2010 was almost too exciting for F1 fans.

[Agron]

Great reply from Petrov .

[tpe]

Saying something happened in the heat of the moment is a cop out, an excuse.

You cannot excuse that pathetic showing from Alonso.

Refer to Massa 2008 Brazil on how to lose graciously.

That is all.

+10000000000000000000000000000000

THAT was gracious. That was sportsmanship. Although I respect him as a driver, I cannot accept that kind of behavior. Anyway, he already done that. Let's focus on 2011.

[shostak]

RedRebel40, you are a perfect person that never makes mistakes. For me you're just a troll who has always hated Alonso. This thread is another example of it, beating a dead horse. Since now you will be in my ignore list.

[Fiondella]

+10000000000000000000000000000000

THAT was gracious. That was sportsmanship. Although I respect him as a driver, I cannot accept that kind of behavior. Anyway, he already done that. Let's focus on 2011.

I think it's normal to defend our drivers with some degree of subjectiveness. Let's be honest about this ,Alonso doesn't come close to the arrogance and unsporting behaviour of Schumy or Senna in their prime. Can you imagine if he had parked the car in the Pits and had a full blown hissy fit as I would have done and I think some have on this forum have already mentioned. He's hot blooded and a bloody good driver and given time may become one of the best ever and I think what he did was incredibily restrained and insignificant and not worthy of these silly comments questioning his temperament

[ales]

For a start, Petrov fully deserved it for being a complete a-hole. There was no need for him to be so aggressive...
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Secondly, I love when drivers show some aggression, proves they're human.

Seriously?

[Effone]

For a start, Petrov fully deserved it for being a complete a-hole. There was no need for him to be so aggressive, he wasn't fighting for the championship and Alonso's race wasn't with him. Fair enough the Renault drivers were fighting for points but at least they could've been considerate.
I hope he's not in F1 next year.

Secondly, I love when drivers show some aggression, proves they're human. I don't want Fernando to be loved 100% by everyone, If half the people love him and half the people hate him, then he is a star, "words of a sleazy music manager".

Go Fernando, use this frustration as extra motivation to absolutely annihilate your opposition next year.

Petrov was doing his job, do you think Alonso has a right to be waved past other drivers? no, only Massa will bow to him. Petrov was trying to race for position and fight for his seat next year, he did nothing wrong.

It would be a different matter if he was being lapped, but that wasn't the case.

[shostak]

He's hot blooded and a bloody good driver and given time may become one of the best ever and I think what he did was incredibily restrained and insignificant and not worthy of these silly comments questioning his temperament

[OldskoolF1]

I can post, but this is the true Alonso. At his postrace interview he is trying to repair his damaged reputation.

Yeah that is spot on. He acted like a baby afterwards throwing his toys out the cot and then tried to play it all down with the interview. Bad loser. He always acts like a spoilt kid when he doesn't get what he wants. He acted the same way at Mclaren when Lewis was whipping him.

[OldskoolF1]

RedRebel40, you are a perfect person that never makes mistakes. For me you're just a troll who has always hated Alonso. This thread is another example of it, beating a dead horse. Since now you will be in my ignore list.

Put me in your ignore list as well baby. People like you can't handle the truth so it's easy to call someone a troll. Too may siestas

[Tifosi]

Pointless over reaction really. We lost the WDC by 4 points. Isn't that a more important achievement than finding an excuse to bash the driver that nearly won it?

[Greig]

Yeah that is spot on. He acted like a baby afterwards throwing his toys out the cot and then tried to play it all down with the interview. Bad loser. He always acts like a spoilt kid when he doesn't get what he wants. He acted the same way at Mclaren when Lewis was whipping him.

Yet you proudly sport at MS avatar, ooooh the irony

[OldskoolF1]

Yet you proudly sport at MS avatar, ooooh the irony

Schumacher is not relevant now is he? Alonso is the one acting like a baby. Bringing Schumacher up is just another way of saying you have no argument or anything useful to say

[Losticus]

I can't believe that a real ferrari fan could open a thread just to bash one of his pilots that has just lost the WDC by a scarce margin and has ended second with the third car on the grid.

Congratulations to Alonso for bringing us emotion and proud until the last race, when we all thought after Silverstone that everything was up and done.

[Lesky]

Well, with regards to Greig and Schumacher - one thing should make us all sleep well:

Regardsless if its bad behaviour off the track, dangerous driving or team orders happening at Ferrari 2010 and forward, we can always take
comfort in the fact that it was always worse in the Schumacher era.

No matter what Alonso or anyone else does, Schumacher has done it in a much more cruel or rude way!

And rest assured Greig will be here to point it out for us, so no need to worry everybody, we are all set for the future.

[OldskoolF1]

I can't believe that a real ferrari fan could open a thread just to bash one of his pilots that has just lost the WDC by a scarce margin and has ended second with the third car on the grid.

Congratulations to Alonso for bringing us emotion and proud until the last race, when we all thought after Silverstone that everything was up and done.

Real Ferrari fans don't wear rose tinted spectacles so get real

[OldskoolF1]

Well, with regards to Greig and Schumacher - one thing should make us all sleep well:

Regardsless if its bad behaviour off the track, dangerous driving or team orders happening at Ferrari 2010 and forward, we can always take
comfort in the fact that it was always worse in the Schumacher era.

No matter what Alonso or anyone else does, Schumacher has done it in a much more cruel or rude way!

Still don't see how Schumacher is relevant but if thats the way you want it. Schumacher won us 5 championships in a row, Alonso nothing. But yeah Schumacher was a right problem for Ferrari

[Fiondella]

Still don't see how Schumacher is relevant but if thats the way you want it. Schumacher won us 5 championships in a row, Alonso nothing. But yeah Schumacher was a right problem for Ferrari

What did Schumacher achieve in his first year with us? and what exactly is your problem with Alonso? Not arrogant enough for you?

[OldskoolF1]

What did Schumacher achieve in his first year with us? and what exactly is your problem with Alonso?

You also missed the point. Schumacher is not relevant!! Clear enough for you? I don't have a problem with Alonso just don't like his antics. It's embarrassing. He did fantastic racing all year only to act like a kid when he gets beaten fair and square. It's not Petrov's fault. Ferrari tactics lost us the race and championship

[WRX202]

and here we go again....
Can't we all just let bygones be bygones? Schumi WAS a Ferrari driver, Alonso IS a Ferrari driver. They have one thing in common and that is driving for Ferrari. Whatever they did is part of competing at the highest level. It seems that we criticize our own drivers more than our main rivals over here. Give it a break!
So none of you remembers Vettel crashing into his own team mate this year? Button saving fuel just as he was challenging Hamilton? Schumacher pushing Reubens into the pitwall? Hamilton zig-zag-ing to hold "Mr victim of a gesture" Petrov? All episodes that show that these drivers have andrenaline rushing 10x more we could ever experience in our own lives for the duration of a whole GP. Split second reactions, high speed manouvers, late brakings [not power assisted like our road cars] etc. would make any mortal crazy.
Alonso's gestures were uncalled for true but no big deal! We see middle fingers waved all the time during practice and qualifying runs so how can one expect less when the whole year's hard work was on the line behind Petrov? Did he do the right thing? NO. Is he not a good driver cause of this? Of course he is a good driver and may I remind everyone that he's staying here for another two years so if Petrov didn't make a fuss about it who the hell are we to make an issue out of it?!
Let it pass and focus on 2011...

[Fiondella]

I don't have a problem with Alonso just don't like his antics. It's embarrassing. He did fantastic racing all year only to act like a kid when he gets beaten fair and square. It's not Petrov's fault. Ferrari tactics lost us the race and championship

Mate if you had a competative bone in your body you would know exactly how he felt. Remember Spa 98 when Schumy ran into the back of Coulthard. He was spitting blood and would have knocked seven shades of brown stuff out of David had he not been restrained. Schumacher's move on Ruby this year was far more embarrassing IMO

[OldskoolF1]

Mate if you had a competative bone in your body you would know exactly how he felt. Remember Spa 98 when Schumy ran into the back of Coulthard. He was spitting blood and would have knocked seven shades of brown stuff out of David had he not been restrained. When Schumacher's move on Ruby this year was far more embarrassing IMO

Still banging on about schumacher? He doesn't drive for Ferrari anymore so how is he relevant? I keep asking the same question but no answer. Don't let my avatar fool you like it does Greig. What Schumacher does now is up to him and his new team. I'm a Ferrari and Audi fan, Mercedes is not for me. When you are ready to join the real discussion let us know ok because you are still a few steps behind. I don't have anything against people who are a bit slow so don't worry i will wait for you to catch up

[Greig]

Well, with regards to Greig and Schumacher - one thing should make us all sleep well:

Regardsless if its bad behaviour off the track, dangerous driving or team orders happening at Ferrari 2010 and forward, we can always take
comfort in the fact that it was always worse in the Schumacher era.

No matter what Alonso or anyone else does, Schumacher has done it in a much more cruel or rude way!

And rest assured Greig will be here to point it out for us, so no need to worry everybody, we are all set for the future.

Because it is a fact, and I was here to witness the defence of his antics, maybe you were not

No point hiding behind closed eyes no matter how much it hurts your feelings.