Spanish GP: Friday, Saturday FP sessions thread

[Kingdom Hearts]

Not looking good, time to pray.

[Lithium]

Problem for Nando?

Looks like he was all of a sudden stuck in 6th gear, or at least that's what it looked during a replay...

[tifoso SF]

OMG.. vettel's 1st lap > 1st position

[RockyRaccoon]

What has Red Bull innovated?

To be fair Red Bull (Adrian Newey) have basically innovated the entire current aero concept in F1

[Hermann]

Guys lets face it, FIA will not allow Ferrari to become a danger for their golden child like they did last year. We will have to wait until next year, maybe they will be over their RB love affair by then.

[NJB13]

Lets hope it gets a lot hotter for Q and for the race. That seems to help us.

[Greig]

Did our rear wing fail a prescribed test? By Charlie's own words it was clever and down to interpretation.

As RD CW can investigate the car further and, just as was done in 2006 with our rear wing, deem it moving and ban it. The current rules permit him to act on something that appears to move.

No they don't, the can penalize on their current interpretation (they say EBDs are moving aeros). They don't need a protest. It is then up to the teams to protest and prove CW wrong.

Yes our wing was higher than allowed

All wings move, they have tests, the wings pass the test then they are ok

They say they BELIEVE it is moving areo, not that it is, but believe, if Virgin for instance protest then they need to prove it as do the FIA.

[Alessandra]

Am I right in thinking Fernando didn't post a fast lap in either P2 or 3? P3 due to gear problem, P2 being held up?

[Lithium]

OMG.. vettel's 1st lap > 1st position

fook this!!!!

[Greig]

To be fair Red Bull (Adrian Newey) have basically innovated the entire current aero concept in F1

Such as?

The rules seem to have given the current concept no?

[NJB13]

Shumi 3rd, I bet he's happy about that

[Hombre B]

Not to good:

Session is finished. Not very positive for our team, with 9th and 11th position and the gap from the front is very huge...

[Raz]

Shumi 3rd, I bet he's happy about that

yay!

[Lithium]

Nando and the team don't seem too upset in the TV images, smiling and all, so hopefully the gearbox or whatever issues are solved already.

[LAROSA SpA]

Did anyone see Hamilton's overalls he looks like Arlecchino

[zeus2]

Alonso seems to be struggling with setup and Massa is......well just struggling. Anything in Q3 would be a good quali for us I think. If we look like we're struggling to get into Q3, we might as well actively not get into Q3 and save tyres for the race.

[NJB13]

They say they BELIEVE it is moving areo, not that it is, but believe.

I see, so if Charlie "believes" the EBD is a moving aero he can't do anything about it
but
If Charlie "believes" the extra on our rear wing is not part of the flap controller he can ban it ?

[alfarom147]

Six laps and a top spot?
Get real Redbull..y

[RockyRaccoon]

Such as?

The rules seem to have given the current concept no?

Yea but every team has pretty much went down the Red Bull route of getting the rear as small as possible and as much air to the diffuser as they can. Some credit has to be given to Newey for spotting the best interpretaion of the rules first, I didn't mean it as a criticism to anyone else.

On the rear wing, it is banned and I suppose there is no point getting upset about it, but we did look alot better with it. Attempting to ban the exhaust overrun on the blown diffusers is even more ridiculous so it seems they've just lost the plot a little rather than having anything against Ferrari. Pity, they were doing so well under Todt.

[Greig]

I see, so if Charlie "believes" the EBD is a moving aero he can't do anything about it
but
If Charlie "believes" the extra on our rear wing is not part of the flap controller he can ban it ?

Our extra flap made the wing higher than the regulations allowed, there was no believe about it if Ferrari are so sure their wing is legal then they will run it under protest won't they.....

We shall see if any team protests won't we, but they won't as they know they won't win it.

[SchumiForza]

Did you notice Vettel did his fastest lap on hard tyres!!

[luicchi]

"Session is finished. Not very positive for our team, with 9th and 11th position and the gap from the front is very huge..."

We have to react against this kind of dual criteria of FIA.If they wanna play , I think that Ferrari could play...just a move, just one atitude , just protesting and not racing.If there is an inflexible regulations about breaches in the regulations for us then why not the same Inflexible regulations to others. Just because we are Ferrari?Just because our symbol is horse and not a bull??Why then? We must react immediatly against this dual criteria.We dont wanna to have a special treatment we just wanna fair game and this is not a fair game to us .that is my point

[zeus2]

Did you notice Vettel did his fastest lap on hard tyres!!

You got to be kidding me, REALLY?

[gpmaster]

Nando and the team don't seem too upset in the TV images, smiling and all, so hopefully the gearbox or whatever issues are solved already.

Was a replay of earlier in FP3.

[SchumiForza]

You got to be kidding me, REALLY?

I'm trying to find official confirmation. But I saw silver tyres on his car when he came into the pits

[Hombre B]

You got to be kidding me, REALLY?

I don't think so... he used the soft tyres. no?

[NJB13]

Our extra flap made the wing higher than the regulations allowed, there was no believe about it if Ferrari are so sure their wing is legal then they will run it under protest won't they.....

Charlie said it was clever, and, he had to "believe" it was not part of the flap controller to be included in the measurement.

And, have you changed now, I thought you said earlier that CW had to "prove" it, now you're saying it's up to us to protest and prove he's wrong?

[zeus2]

I'm trying to find official confirmation. But I saw silver tyres on his car when he came into the pits

Don't think he woulda made it into the 1.21's on hards, but if its true I guess the rest of the teams might as well pack up and head for Monaco .

[Hombre B]

Soft tyres obviously for the German and he ends the final practice session at Barcelona just 0.084s clear of team-mate Webber.

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[Forzi]

Did you notice Vettel did his fastest lap on hard tyres!!

I can swear i saw yellow Pirelli stripes on it. And besides, him being faster then Webber on the hards, that take away 2 secs of your pace is rather unbeleavable.