Bahrain testing 27 Feb-2 Mar

**Cemz85** · 1st March 2014, 10:00

It wouldnt surprise me if Ferrari split the driver tomorrow to give kimi more mileage

**hrc5555** · 1st March 2014, 10:01

Originally Posted by RedPassion

Maybe because its part of an extreme elecronical setup(like ebd,or legal traction control,that if it starts to work could bring them huge improvements.
Ithink its all part of their plans,that could explain their cockiness although the problems,its no basic stuff hampering them but an extreme setup
Is that such a big work to do?

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If they got legal traction control like they have it last year than I think no one can beat them, even if they lose big points in first few races!
Hope that Ferrari i capable to implement that legal traction control too.

**LF1Torsion** · 1st March 2014, 10:05

Originally Posted by RedPassion

Maybe because its part of an extreme elecronical setup(like ebd,or legal traction control,that if it starts to work could bring them huge improvements.
Ithink its all part of their plans,that could explain their cockiness although the problems,its no basic stuff hampering them but an extreme setup
Is that such a big work to do?

The problem today could also be entirely new. Happens often that when you fix one issue, something else becomes visible.

**Jose Lorca** · 1st March 2014, 10:15

More problems for Red Bull:

Originally Posted by AMuS

We have heard of Red Bull that the electronics went crazy. Now, the batteries must be changed first. It will take at least 2 hours before Vettel can start the next run

With all the problems they've had, I'd be amazed if Red Bull can finish in Australia.

**abbottcostello** · 1st March 2014, 10:17

I think RB's problems revolve around a steadfast refusal by Horner to abandon the tight bodywork & he keeps telling Renault to "fix the cooling problem that your PU has!!!". I think his seemingly crude & haphazard cutting & pounding of bodywork will result in a well thought out solution come Melbourne, much to all of our dismay.

And it is not that I want this to happen, but I just can't imagine that they've gotten back on their heels this badly & haven't seemed to respond well at all to their dilemma. Hope that I'm proven wrong & SV looses a battle with Kamui for P19 in Australia.

**Jas** · 1st March 2014, 10:19

Is Kimi Raikonen going to be the next Mark Webber with the problems....can see the press now! Tbh look at vettel and Riccardo, it is in fact that vettel whos getting the most problems I think...not saying much tbh!

**mark p** · 1st March 2014, 10:20

I can't find Alonso's race sim laptimes, anyone got them? I have seen others compared but not Ferrari. I think it was just a gentle 1st attempt sim like Rosberg in Jerez but i just want to see the times.

**Forzi** · 1st March 2014, 10:23

Originally Posted by Cemz85

It wouldnt surprise me if Ferrari split the driver tomorrow to give kimi more mileage

Would agree. It's Alonso - 456, Raikkonen - 267 for now.

**Hornet** · 1st March 2014, 10:25

I don't think any team is concern about driver's mileage at this point, right now it's about developing the cars. Same goes for Vettel, he have very little laps when compared to Ric, didn't see any change in plan there.

Anyway, so this on Sky

Autosprint in Italy reports Ferrari is working both on ERS and KERS improvement. That's why they are in lack of mileage today

**wacc** · 1st March 2014, 10:28

Originally Posted by mark p

I can't find Alonso's race sim laptimes, anyone got them? I have seen others compared but not Ferrari. I think it was just a gentle 1st attempt sim like Rosberg in Jerez but i just want to see the times.

From other forums - Fernando's times are in the 3rd column:

**Senna4Ever** · 1st March 2014, 10:31

While #Alo14 runs well #Kimi7 doesn't come into gear ... strange ...

I know that someone asked yesterday but I think there was no response on that
Do they use the same car just changing the number and the seat or do we have two different cars in Bahrain?

I will look into German forum where all the Vettel friends are located: I guess they are already discussing about Alonso breaking up and sabotage the car before handover to Kimi

So if we don't split drivers tomorrow Kimi will have a bussy Friday and Saturday morning in Australia ...

**mark p** · 1st March 2014, 10:32

Thanks. Any idea if this was 1st 2 stints or last 2? If 1st 2 stints snd car to the right was last thats good. If was same stints as car on the right not that good but these race sims are awkward to be too detailed on. Rosbergs race sim in bahrain was roughly the same from memory.

**Schumyboy83** · 1st March 2014, 10:34

10:31 The track is open again after lunch. Yesterday we had to wait nearly another 30 minutes to see a car after the end of the lunchbreak.

That's not the case today, as Raikkonen takes the Ferrari straight out.

**Ago** · 1st March 2014, 10:35

Kimi is out on the track
10:31 The track is open again after lunch. Yesterday we had to wait nearly another 30 minutes to see a car after the end of the lunchbreak.
That's not the case today, as Raikkonen takes the Ferrari straight out.

**Hornet** · 1st March 2014, 10:35

Originally Posted by Senna4Ever

While #Alo14 runs well #Kimi7 doesn't come into gear ... strange ...

I know that someone asked yesterday but I think there was no response on that
Do they use the same car just changing the number and the seat or do we have two different cars in Bahrain?

I will look into German forum where all the Vettel friends are located: I guess they are already discussing about Alonso breaking up and sabotage the car before handover to Kimi

So if we don't split drivers tomorrow Kimi will have a bussy Friday and Saturday morning in Australia ...

Of course they ignored the fact that Ferrari were making changes to the car and everything was going as planned.

**mihirshah28186** · 1st March 2014, 10:42

Is there a problem with Kimi Raikkonenc car.

**wacc** · 1st March 2014, 10:52

Originally Posted by Senna4Ever

...I know that someone asked yesterday but I think there was no response on that
Do they use the same car just changing the number and the seat or do we have two different cars in Bahrain?
...

Probably they have only one car. Look at RedBull. They cut holes in the Ricciardo's car yesterday, today Vettel's car still has traces of these holes although they are sealed.

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**Ste** · 1st March 2014, 10:57

#F1 Drivers complain about gusting winds & sand. Massa: "Undriveable" Rosberg: "Like a sandstorm." Hulk: "Hard to keep car on the track."

**Ste** · 1st March 2014, 11:02

Sebastian Vettel's spokeswoman says the world champion will not be going out on track again before 4pm local (1pm GMT)

**Black Adder** · 1st March 2014, 11:15

Kimi is making some laps, at a OK (to use this favourite word) speed. Fingers crossed!!
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**Black Adder** · 1st March 2014, 11:17

Ferrari is clearly working on speed over long runs at this stage of the afternoon, as Raikkonen goes second fastest with a 1m36.9s.

**gjoko-mkd** · 1st March 2014, 11:19

Kimi: 1:36.993 21 laps

**mark p** · 1st March 2014, 11:23

Originally Posted by Black Adder

Ferrari is clearly working on speed over long runs at this stage of the afternoon, as Raikkonen goes second fastest with a 1m36.9s.

Medium fuel? Seems only merc done low fuel quali sim in low 33's, full race fuel in 40's, 42's some race sim laps probably due to fuel conservation, 36's seems in the middle so medium fuel? I know depends a well on tyre compounds and tyre age but just possible ballpark figures.

**wacc** · 1st March 2014, 11:28

Originally Posted by mark p

Thanks. Any idea if this was 1st 2 stints or last 2? If 1st 2 stints snd car to the right was last thats good. If was same stints as car on the right not that good but these race sims are awkward to be too detailed on. Rosbergs race sim in bahrain was roughly the same from memory.

Fernando allegedly ran S-M-M-S. As medeni73 reported (yesterday 14:06 #597) these time are on M and S, so it should be the 3rd and 4th stint.

**wacc** · 1st March 2014, 11:29

Originally Posted by mark p

Medium fuel? Seems only merc done low fuel quali sim in low 33's, full race fuel in 40's, 42's some race sim laps probably due to fuel conservation, 36's seems in the middle so medium fuel? I know depends a well on tyre compounds and tyre age but just possible ballpark figures.

The difference between empty and full tanks should be around 3 seconds.

**fronaldo** · 1st March 2014, 11:30

This run opens with a gentle 1m46s from Raikkonen, but he follows that up with a 1m37.7s, suggesting this will be another short run

**tifosi1993** · 1st March 2014, 11:33

Hulk's first stint:

Startlap - 1:43.7 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.6 - 1:43.6 - 1:43.7 - 1:43.8 - 1:44.3 - 1:44.1 - 1 : 44.9 - 1:44.6 - 1:44.8 - 1:44.5 - 1:44.1 - 1:45.5 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.8 - 1:45.7 - Inlap

Edit: Medium tyre

(Today's conditions are far from ideal)

**mark p** · 1st March 2014, 11:35

It was around 7 seconds last year between 1st race laps and quali. I know less fuel this year but 3 seconds. Merc should have ran openinng laps in 36's on race sim then but were in the 40's. Cannot be just fuel conservation at over 4 seconds a lap can it?