F14-T- Development & News

[mark p]

Massive updates for Spain: http://nextgen-auto.com/Nouveau-nez-...4-T,75751.html

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I would love this to be true but appears to be all the rumours over the past few weeks put into a paragraph. These rumours are likely to be the dreams of many a fan me included but one thing in it makes me think as if....flat bottom? Am I to believe if we were to see the underside of the F14 T the floor would have a hole at the back exposing the gearbox base like on an early 70's F1 car they just realised this and will run a flat bottom floor like they have for the previous 30 years? Or they mean a complete flat floor with no reference or step planes which is illegal. What does the article mean by flat bottom?

[abbottcostello]

I would love this to be true but appears to be all the rumours over the past few weeks put into a paragraph. These rumours are likely to be the dreams of many a fan me included but one thing in it makes me think as if....flat bottom? Am I to believe if we were to see the underside of the F14 T the floor would have a hole at the back exposing the gearbox base like on an early 70's F1 car they just realised this and will run a flat bottom floor like they have for the previous 30 years? Or they mean a complete flat floor with no reference or step planes which is illegal. What does the article mean by flat bottom?

First off, I haven't quite figured out how to do the "multi-quote" feature of this forum without a few trys, but I want to say you are spot on with the point about Alonso being a part of the team.
As far as that article on updates, a lot seems to get lost or muddled in the translation, but what is said could probably be said about all the constructors to some degree, sort of a 'we are looking at all areas to see where we can make some gains'.
My biggest hope is Luca said he has given the team the ability to implement changes quickly without all the red tape. If they were in truth mired down by their own internal processes, well shame on him for taking all this time to admit to it & good for deciding to act to bring about change.

[NickEice]

I agree and China was faster track, in those track we will have advantage but on less ones like Barcelona, Monaco, etc....
In pace race we are still behind RB and because of that I think if we gain that advantage we will be ahead or in worst case same...

We should actually be good in Spain. Long straight, high speed bends which we are good at this year, no real hairpins, long turn onto the start finish straight that will hide some traction issues. The heat may be more important than track characteristics. We prefer the cooler weather it seems compared to our rivals.

Just my opinion but what do I know.

[Ferris]

We should actually be good in Spain. Long straight, high speed bends which we are good at this year, no real hairpins, long turn onto the start finish straight that will hide some traction issues. The heat may be more important than track characteristics. We prefer the cooler weather it seems compared to our rivals.

Just my opinion but what do I know.

When you say "we" prefer the cooler weather i think you mean Alonso. Kimi is at sea with the cooler temp as he doesn't energise his tyres nearly as much as Alonso as shown in China.

[varun]

We should actually be good in Spain. Long straight, high speed bends which we are good at this year, no real hairpins, long turn onto the start finish straight that will hide some traction issues. The heat may be more important than track characteristics. We prefer the cooler weather it seems compared to our rivals.

Just my opinion but what do I know.

Correct me if am wrong but due to our poor traction over last few years, we struggle in the penultimate corner in Spain and are not able to take advantage of the long straight even with DRS.
I remeber Alonso vs Maldanado 2012

[Rishu]

Correct me if am wrong but due to our poor traction over last few years, we struggle in the penultimate corner in Spain and are not able to take advantage of the long straight even with DRS.
I remeber Alonso vs Maldanado 2012

F14 T didn't do too bad in China on corners 1,2,3 & 14. Spain should be good IMO

[SilverSpeed]

Alonso already said spain will be harder so don't get your hopes up to high.

[Honzus]

I've noticed, that Alonso often downplays our chances and then after good result he usually speaks about surprise.

[Majki2111]

I've noticed, that Alonso often downplays our chances and then after good result he usually speaks about surprise.

Example? I can't remember any.

[SilverSpeed]

It always seems to me that Alonso knows best and he tells the truth more often then give false hope.

Can't remember either when that was Honzus.

[FerrariF60]

Alonso already said spain will be harder so don't get your hopes up to high.

yeah, but he also likes to downplay things...he said kind of the same thing b4 china, and in my book i think ferrari made a good step forward compared to Bahrain; so i'm quietly optimistic for Spain....

don't forget, Ferrari have been working day in and day out around the clock these past 3 weeks as well as the updates that we probably have in the pipeline from teh beginning of the season, so all in all i think we're gonna be in somewhat good shape....probably wont' catch Mercedes just YET, but we'll be closer

[SilverSpeed]

FerrariF60,

Alonso said China will be much better then Bahrein cause that circuit was the worst of all. China had more high speeds corners so again wrong info. He didn't downplayed China!!!

[FerrariF60]

FerrariF60,

Alonso said China will be much better then Bahrein cause that circuit was the worst of all. China had more high speeds corners so again wrong info. He didn't downplayed China!!!

well in that case, spain should be much better....lotta of high speed corners tehre too

[Honzus]

Example? I can't remember any.

It is my feeling from his press interviews....

[ferrari4life]

I've noticed, that Alonso often downplays our chances and then after good result he usually speaks about surprise.

you meant to tell me he is a Pessimist.. OH MY.. he would be slaughtered on these forums..

[Honzus]

you meant to tell me he is a Pessimist.. OH MY.. he would be slaughtered on these forums..

I meant just what I wrote, it is just MY feeling from his words, his face usually looks very sad and serious... I dont know him personally so my impressions are only from what I hear and see.

[Paulpg87]

in tv they said big updates for spain tests, not for spain gp. The tests will be after the gp and that's why Alonso said it will be harder, probably we won't have any out of the ordinary update package for the race... cause it makes sense..without tests i've have never seen a car fully rebuilt like they are rumoring

[ntukza]

Same as saying RedBull are not better than Ferrari it is just Newey? These individuals are part of the team so anything they do is counted as part of a teams overall stature in my book.

Very good post!

[SilverSpeed]

well in that case, spain should be much better....lotta of high speed corners tehre too

Did you read #3307 ???

[khizerk]

in tv they said big updates for spain tests, not for spain gp. The tests will be after the gp and that's why Alonso said it will be harder, probably we won't have any out of the ordinary update package for the race... cause it makes sense..without tests i've have never seen a car fully rebuilt like they are rumoring

Its also because the first and second sectors aren't particularly full of high speed corners. The first right and left are slow and really require good traction to be in a proper line for the third right hander. The next two turns are low speed turns too. Just because they are long doesn't mean they are high speed which often tends to be a misconception.

My point is, Ferrari is good where you have to throw your car in a turn carrying speed. Barcelona requires the car to brake, turn and then build speed through it - requiring traction to be good.

[Nero Horse]

Alonso already said spain will be harder so don't get your hopes up to high.

FerrariF60,

Alonso said China will be much better then Bahrein cause that circuit was the worst of all. China had more high speeds corners so again wrong info. He didn't downplayed China!!!

Did you read #3307 ???

The way you argue with people who try to remain positive, it seems to me as if you almost wish that we won't have a good race in Spain and we won't make any progress...very strange.

Just because you want to be pessimistic doesn't mean that others have to be that way as well. There is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't hope for a good race weekend in Spain. By then the team has worked three weeks non-stop to improve the car and I believe that there's a really good chance that we'll see a big step forward being taken there. Remember 2012 season? Back then we managed to make a significant step forward and gained almost a full second in Spain, with all the new updates. Who's to say that it won't happen again? I for one believe that it can happen.

[SilverSpeed]

I'm not being pessimistic here, I just can't stand people that aren't giving true info or twist the truth that's all.

Ps. Other teams work aswell... so we need a big effort. And yes updates are bigger now cause it's all new for everyone.

But past performance are no guarantee of future results!

[Nero Horse]

I'm not being pessimistic here, I just can't stand people that aren't giving true info or twist the truth that's all.

Ps. Other teams work aswell... so we need a big effort. And yes updates are bigger now cause it's all new for eveyone.

But past performance are no guarantee of future results!

Fair enough...

Everything will become clear in a little more than a week, until then keep your fingers crossed for a great Ferrari comeback.

That race weekend will be crucial for how the rest of the season is going to pan out for us. We need to take a significant step forward there, cause it will be long time till we get the next big batch of new updates on the car.

[ENZOMARANELLO]

Example? I can't remember any.

If I remember correctly, he was downplaying this race last year too after qualif, and ended up winning it. Wouldn't that be nice:)

[wisepie]

If I remember correctly, he was downplaying this race last year too after qualif, and ended up winning it. Wouldn't that be nice:)

I wish!! And you never know, Merc are surely due a DNF and we flaming well need it!!

[gjoko-mkd]

At that picture we have a better view on the position of the turbo and the compressor to

[stefa]

If I remember correctly, he was downplaying this race last year too after qualif, and ended up winning it. Wouldn't that be nice:)

At least one. Not the break the record of 20 consecutive years with at least one win per season!

[FF1]

At that picture we have a better view on the position of the turbo and the compressor to

so is it a split turbo like merc or not

[gjoko-mkd]

Yes,I think so,but with shortly turbo axle .The compressor in Mercedes is more close to the end of the engine, and seems at Ferrari is near the middle of the unit

[Winter]

I can't spot even charger from that picture. I guess compressor is right in the middle, under that aluminium cover?
Do you see the turbo, or how can you tell it's split like Mercs?