Jerez Testing (finally)

[OSS EL BOSS]

10 laps done so far only Mercedes has done more but their day is over while we have anther 3 hours.

[RedPassion]

I firmly believe that they will moan to FIA if the engine has strange vibrations,if it is not already their deliberatly plane,and this without irony.It seems some people have no reputation to honour(Renault and RBR).

[medeni73]

Caterham is soon bound to show their "Alien"... :)

[Ste]

McLaren: 'hydraulic and electrical installation issues'. Everything (car, engine, g'box) won't go together and start. Unlikely to run today.

Interesting to hear Adrian Newey admit that RBR would have been better off now had it backed off earlier on RB9 development last year.

[bluesilhouettes]

I firmly believe that they will moan to FIA if the engine has strange vibrations,if it is not already their deliberatly plane,and this without irony.It seems some people have no reputation to honour(Renault and RBR).

They will be allowed to run old V8 with 100kg fuel a race :rotfl

[Kyss4k]

Scarbs:
Mecedes nose? Interesting, lots of details
Ferrari nose? Conservative

Come on Scarbs...

[Senna4Ever]

Scarbs:
Mecedes nose? Interesting, lots of details
Ferrari nose? Conservative

Come on Scarbs...

Senna4Ever
Mercedes nose? Broke
Ferrari nose? still lasts ...

[Rosso Corsa]

Ste. The video you posted earlier. Is that the Toro Rosso?

[RedPassion]

Scarbs:
Mecedes nose? Interesting, lots of details
Ferrari nose? Conservative

Come on Scarbs...

I agree completely with that,not balanced at all.

[Jas]

When does it end?

I think 4..not sure

[Ste]

Ste. The video you posted earlier. Is that the Toro Rosso?
It is, yes.

[medeni73]

Tobias Grüner F1 @tgruener

AMuS exclusive: Mercedes frist test day is over. No spare front wing at Jerez. Reinforced spare part will be flown in tomorrow a.m.

[tpe]

Scarbs:
Mecedes nose? Interesting, lots of details
Ferrari nose? Conservative

Come on Scarbs...


Why? It's true. I am very impressed by their FW, BTW.

[Jas]

[QUOTE=Ste;823071]McLaren: 'hydraulic and electrical installation issues'. Everything (car, engine, g'box) won't go together and start. Unlikely to run today.

I just don't understand this, same with catheram, surley they would have test fitted this all on the car in the factory

[Frank Dhont]

More details at the Mercedes frontwing ???

Especially the details to let the frontwing fall off automatically :)

[Kyss4k]

Why? It's true. I am very impressed by their FW, BTW.

I'm talking about the nose.

[Rosso Corsa]

It is, yes.

Does it sound sick? Crackles in the middle of the rev range can't be good?

[Jas]

Are Williams here today?!?!?

[Suzie]

Hilarious that some are writing the season/car off on day 1 of testing.
It doesn't actually look that bad now we can see it out on track, or at least the car doesn't.

[DIEK]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfEMOlNIQAALKyO.jpg:large

[Hornet]

Scarbs:
Mecedes nose? Interesting, lots of details
Ferrari nose? Conservative

Come on Scarbs...

Merc interpretation of the rule is completely different from the other team. All the other team's idea to meet the minimum height is the tip of the nose. This results in the sausages or Ferrari's low nose, because everyone's thinking is that the tip needs to meet the minimum height.

Not Merc however. Merc use the edge of the U shape to meet the minimum height requirement. So their idea is similar to Ferrari, but they do not need the middle tip to meet the minimum height which allows the to raise the nose as high as they wanted, while Ferrari kept the nose tip low to meet the rule.

What the rule said was that the nose cross section had to be of certain area, and it's height must be a certain height. But it never say what shape it should be. So as long as one point of this area meets the minimum height, it's legal.

[Ste]

Hamilton crash.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gZ5yRtxLJw

[Kyss4k]

Merc interpretation of the rule is completely different from the other team. All the other team's idea to meet the minimum height is the tip of the nose. This results in the sausages or Ferrari's low nose, because everyone's thinking is that the tip needs to meet the minimum height.

Not Merc however. Merc use the edge of the U shape to meet the minimum height requirement. So their idea is similar to Ferrari, but they do not need the middle tip to meet the minimum height which allows the to raise the nose as high as they wanted, while Ferrari kept the nose tip low to meet the rule.

What the rule said was that the nose cross section had to be of certain area, and it's height must be a certain height. But it never say what shape it should be. So as long as one point of this area meets the minimum height, it's legal.

Well then it is illegal isn't it? Because there has to be only 1 point of the nose in that area. And by doing that, they have 2. That's why Lotus have to have the tusks in different sizes.

[DIEK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV7v-OtWMzc

[Hornet]

Well then it is illegal isn't it? Because there has to be only 1 point of the nose in that area. And by doing that, they have 2. That's why Lotus have to have the tusks in different sizes.

Single point meaning the a single cross section arae. In the finger nose for example, the entire finger's cross section is the cross section required. This area can be any shape.

Lotus has two seperate cross section, so they have move one cross section backwards so it doesn't fall into the cross section mentioned by the rules.

[Ste]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV7v-OtWMzc
Ferrari always have the best engine sound...nice!

[medeni73]

Adrian Newey: "We hope that we get the car still on the track, it is only so that any change three to four times as long is as yet in the last year because everything is so tight in the rear.."

[Ste]

Hamilton isn't happy with how today went...

http://i42.tinypic.com/zn446.jpg

[RedPassion]

Single point meaning the a single cross section arae. In the finger nose for example, the entire finger's cross section is the cross section required. This area can be any shape.

Lotus has two seperate cross section, so they have move one cross section backwards so it doesn't fall into the cross section mentioned by the rules.
By the way i believe that it is easy to copy and may not even be much better,it is a question of philosophy in the car design.

[Schumiklub]

Hamilton isn't happy with how today went...

http://i42.tinypic.com/zn446.jpg

LOL @ his hair! :rotfl

[Ste]

Ferrari's are red, Red Bull's are blue, where on earth is the Caterham, I want to see it too.

[Hornet]

Lewis has grown some hair lol


By the way i believe that it is easy to copy and may not even be much better,it is a question of philosophy in the car design.

I think Ferrari will be easiest to copy since it's very similar, just different height.

[Ste]

Lots of car sounds from today - none of Ferrari unfortunately. Renault engine sounds terrible...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_GwL2KFw9I

[Ste]

Oh dear.

http://i42.tinypic.com/w4keg.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/r74n86.jpg

[Rosso Corsa]

The Renault sounds like its inside bits want to be outside

[Ste]

Caterham have fired the car up three times and it's stalled, three times.

[tifosi1993]

Oh dear.

http://i42.tinypic.com/w4keg.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/r74n86.jpg

Not bad.

[medeni73]

http://scstylecaster.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/alien.gif?w=500&h=222

[Kyss4k]

Original

[Hornet]

lol, it looks like they cut the old nose and stick a new one under it

[FerrariFanBoii]

F-Ducts were ugly, Stepped Nose was ugly, but these new noses.... Whatever you wanna call them... Are just disgusting.

[medeni73]

Caterham have fired the car up three times and it's stalled, three times.

According to AMuS Marcus Ericsson stalled the engine 2 times...

[Ste]

:rotfl:lol

http://i39.tinypic.com/2vaxiyh.png

[Ste]

http://i44.tinypic.com/x398ad.jpg

[tifosi1993]

http://i44.tinypic.com/x398ad.jpg

Pull rod front suspension.

[Ste]

http://i44.tinypic.com/34shvrn.jpg

[RedPassion]

The Renault sounds like its inside bits want to be outside
:Hmm
:lou
:-E
:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

[Hermann]

F1 is going to be rated +18 this year.

[Kyss4k]

It's ugly as hell, but surprisingly worked out. It could be effective.

[RedPassion]

http://i44.tinypic.com/34shvrn.jpg
It Looks like a garbage bin with a broken nose,WOW!!!!!:-E
It is just so bulky.

[shamim179]

I thought the torro rosso's nose was the ugliest but caterham's is in a different league! What on earth happened there? Are CNN happy with their logo on the tip!

[Ste]

http://i40.tinypic.com/9vfjvs.jpg

[Nova]

Wow, that Caterham...A new low in front nose design...get it? :-D

[Kristof_F40]

I'm wonderring, some teams are looking for sponsors, I think there are some sponsors who could be particularly interested in (some) modern day F1 cars..

[Hornet]

:rotfl:lol

http://i39.tinypic.com/2vaxiyh.png

:lol
I would be angry too if I spend million of dollars for a car that look like that

[Kyss4k]

Those sidepods are horendous :-E I would think that after 4 years in F1, they will move their design up a bit...

[Nova]

Actually, if caterham removed the step, theyd have a decent looking F1 car...

[Ste]

Those sidepods are horendous :-E I would think that after 4 years in F1, they will move their design up a bit...
It does say AirBUS on the side, to be fair.

[tifosi1993]

Well F1 ain't a beauty contest.....

[Ste]

Guess what boys and girls?

Ferrari are clearly happy with the engine and co, because we're looking at Aerodynamics now! First team out with Flo-Viz...

http://i39.tinypic.com/2vw9t91.jpg

[Hermann]

Well F1 ain't a beauty contest.....

There is a difference between not being a beauty contest and creating something that makes you think you are watching porn. I know that sex sells, but this is overstepping a line. What next, naked female drivers?

[Kyss4k]

It does say AirBUS on the side, to be fair.

Fair enough. Maybe the true F1 car is hidden in those sidepods...

[Kyss4k]

There is a difference between not being a beauty contest and creating something that makes you think you are watching porn. I know that sex sells, but this is overstepping a line. What next, naked female drivers?

boobie nose?

[WS6TransAm01]

What next, naked female drivers?

Won't hear me arguing...

[Hermann]

Won't hear me arguing...

:rotfl

[tifosi1993]

Won't hear me arguing...

+1 :-D

[Kristof_F40]

There is a difference between not being a beauty contest and creating something that makes you think you are watching porn. I know that sex sells, but this is overstepping a line. What next, naked female drivers?

We would start with naked grid girls..

[Kristof_F40]

Thats 1 for Renault

[RedPassion]

There is a difference between not being a beauty contest and creating something that makes you think you are watching porn. I know that sex sells, but this is overstepping a line. What next, naked female drivers?
I agree too,it looks bulky and underdeveloped.

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfEuaIcCAAA-agP.jpg:large

[Nova]

Plus 1 Ste, that is huge running floviz this early.

[Hermann]

If one of these cars crashes into another one from behind, 9 months later a go-cart will be born. If a Ferrari is the father, it will look like a dirt devil.

[Tony]

If one of these cars crashes into another one from behind, 9 months later a go-cart will be born. If a Ferrari is the father, it will look like a dirt devil.

:lol :lol :lol

[RedPassion]

I am absolutely sure REdBull hides something dirty,the car looks too conservative by their standards,this would explain why Cristian Horner is now happy with the double points thing,they may need time to develope it.

[Ed Harley]

IMHO everyone will need to develop their cars. Seems that most of the teams have fundamental problems/issues.

[Ste]

1hr10m left - Kimi heads back out onto the track.

Williams and Red Bull are still working to get the car out this afternoon.

[Kristof_F40]

I am absolutely sure REdBull hides something dirty,the car looks too conservative by their standards,this would explain why Cristian Horner is now happy with the double points thing,they may need time to develope it.

I'm quite sure of that.. They got an idea, but they knew they couldn't get it working, so they are developping it now, to use later in the season.. They said they had more than 1 nose.. I mean.. They built a basic thing which they can modify easily, or a thing that is anticipated on what is to come

[scuderiafan]

btw I am in awe of these amazing Mercedes engines. Season over guys. Sorry. No way we can compete with the greatness of those Mercedes powertrains...

Oh wait. One has been written off, and the other won't start. :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl. RBR aren't out right now either.

Maybe that 'underpowered' piece of **** in red might be decent after all? I mean, as Ste says, it seems to have all gone to plan on the reliability side of things and they are now looking at aero.

In fact, that awful powertrain in the Ferrari may be subject to a clarification regarding some packaging by Renault and Mercedes right? Any news on that?

[RedPassion]

IMHO everyone will need to develop their cars. Seems that most of the teams have fundamental problems/issues.
Sure you are right,i wanted to say that they need time to develope their cheap tricks.

[Super M]

14:53 And Kimi goes quicker, 1m28.686s. That's only 0.9s down on Hamilton's Merc best from earlier.

[Ed Harley]

Maybe that 'underpowered' piece of **** in red might be decent after all?Difficult to say at this point as Ferrari is 1.6 seconds slower than Mercedes so far.

Correction: 0.8 secs

[Wildcat]

Caterham has its prepuce.

[Kristof_F40]

Bamn!!

[Ste]

In fact, that awful powertrain in the Ferrari may be subject to a clarification regarding some packaging by Renault and Mercedes right? Any news on that?
It was cleared by the FIA. :-)

[Bubbles]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfEuaIcCAAA-agP.jpg:large

Mother of God! What happened there?

[Ed Harley]

Progressing. Which is nice.

[Kyss4k]

Kimi 1st

[Super M]

14:54 And now he goes fastest of all, 1m27.427s.

[Schumyboy83]

14:54 And now he goes fastest of all, 1m27.427s.

[tifosi1993]

Kimi goes fastest

[Ed Harley]

Need plenty of laps for data.

[RedPassion]

It was cleared by the FIA. :-)
I am scared of being optimistic or excited(looking at the past:-??) even if i would like very much,so for yet just wait and see,and be careful to RB:lou

[slak]

1m27.104

[Super M]

14:56 And again, 1m27.104s. A decent run this time from Kimi.

[Bubbles]

Guess what boys and girls?

Ferrari are clearly happy with the engine and co, because we're looking at Aerodynamics now! First team out with Flo-Viz...

http://i39.tinypic.com/2vw9t91.jpg

I guess they were just testing the installation and temps because they probably knew for some time the engine is OK (Fiorano...). Anyway, nice to see this sort of progress.

Ferrari are really going for it this year.

[Ste]

Times throughout this test are absolutely meaningless and yet, I can't help but be pleased when we're quickest. :-D

[emirBoz]

kimi is the king, come one kimi :)

[slak]

20 laps now. Well Done!!

[RedPassion]

Kimi goes fastest
I really would like to believe that this mean something at the moment,but unfortunetly we must wait:lou
Just calm down Tifosi:-P

[tifosi1993]

Times are meaningless folks, calm down. :-)

[Ste]

I never thought I'd be pleased about seeing 20 laps on a test day. :lol

Kimi improving again, now down to a 1.27.104

[Kristof_F40]

Times throughout this test are absolutely meaningless and yet, I can't help but be pleased when we're quickest. :-D

Indeed, we all now it doesn't really matter, but it just is a nice feeling.. ;)
And ofcourse if we can do some consistent stints, it's always good..

[Ste]

http://i44.tinypic.com/11j4vol.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/f3ch37.jpg

[emirBoz]

Raikkonen pits, but it's a quick stop and he goes straight back out. He has now done 20 laps, more than any other driver.

Try again kimi :)

[Jas]

caterham....even I could have packaged something better than that...how wide do they want them...tut tut...wont be seeing them in 2015 with Tonys Ultimatum recently!

[Ste]

http://i40.tinypic.com/24wamq8.jpg

[Avantifer12]

That video with the Mercedes stalling pulling out of garage is hillarious especially with the turbo spooling down.

I'm surprised that Ferrari not testing the monkey seat yet or has anyone seen it on?

[Ste]

I'm no expert, but these flow lines look pretty good to me.

Also, look at how some of the stickers affect the airflow!

http://i40.tinypic.com/24w69tg.png

[Kyss4k]

That video with the Mercedes stalling pulling out of garage is hillarious especially with the turbo spooling down.

I'm surprised that Ferrari not testing the monkey seat yet or has anyone seen it on?

Here's a thought. Maybe we don't need it. Maybe we have so much rear downforce, that we could afford make the nose the way we did and that we don't need the monkey seat.

But that's just a dream of mine I guess.

[RedPassion]

Mother of God! What happened there?
The Renault turbo exploded inside their ballistic steal chamber:rotfl

[Muhammad Ansib]

McLaren: 'hydraulic and electrical installation issues'. Everything (car, engine, g'box) won't go together and start. Unlikely to run today.

Interesting to hear Adrian Newey admit that RBR would have been better off now had it backed off earlier on RB9 development last year.

Ohh. Did Adrain said it today?

[RedPassion]

I'm no expert, but these flow lines look pretty good to me.

Also, look at how some of the stickers affect the airflow!

http://i40.tinypic.com/24w69tg.png
Wow,look how the air is being pushed downside by the nose:Hmm

[Ste]

Ohh. Did Adrain said it today?
Sure did.

[gjoko-mkd]

"very interesting picture diffuser F14 T. The central court is very very interesting. Retains some elements like gurney flap last year, but this is much better looking and certainly very original."

I`ve put some lights on the picture

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/89/tjrm.jpg

[Kristof_F40]

I'm no expert, but these flow lines look pretty good to me.

Also, look at how some of the stickers affect the airflow!

http://i40.tinypic.com/24w69tg.png

I don't get it, some journo's were saying that we were conservative. But the other, with the dildo/penis, they just try do to the same as last year, as much air under the front as possible. We use the new rules to get air to where we want, by using a different chaped nose, like we can see in this picture... Whether it works better or not, I still think it isn't conservative?

[Kyss4k]

Wow,look how the air is being pushed downside by the nose:Hmm

Exactly as I predicted. Oh, proud moment :oops Ok, that's enough. It is looking rather good.

[RedPassion]

http://i44.tinypic.com/11j4vol.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/f3ch37.jpg
To me it looks even more"conservative" than the RB10,but as we know no onw has CFD eyes,so it does not mean anything.

[LF1Torsion]

Nice to see the team getting a good number of laps under the belt on the first day. Can anyone remember the type of times which were set last year in Jerez?

[Hornet]

Williams' livery looks kind of plain and boring to me. Are they lacking major sponsors?

[RedPassion]

I don't get it, some journo's were saying that we were conservative. But the other, with the dildo/penis, they just try do to the same as last year, as much air under the front as possible. We use the new rules to get air to where we want, by using a different chaped nose, like we can see in this picture... Whether it works better or not, I still think it isn't conservative?
Right,i agree that Merc and us are the less conservative and obvious(by the rules) designs.

[Aberracus]

Like 8 seconds less
1.18" if I'm not mistaken

[Kyss4k]

Nice to see the team getting a good number of laps under the belt on the first day. Can anyone remember the type of times which were set last year in Jerez?

The first day of testing was 1m18.861s by Felipe

[Ste]

Who here is friends with JoseLuisF1? I see my pictures popping up on his twitter :-D

[Kyss4k]

Williams' livery looks kind of plain and boring to me. Are they lacking major sponsors?

There were talks that they are closing the deal with Martini

[Ed Harley]

Nice to see the team getting a good number of laps under the belt on the first day. Can anyone remember the type of times which were set last year in Jerez?
Google is a rather handy tool:

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2013/2/14250.html

[Kyss4k]

Who here is friends with JoseLuisF1? I see my pictures popping up on his twitter :-D

Maybe he is lurking here :-D

[Kingdom Hearts]

Good day so far for us :-), I can't believe that RB has 0 km on their pocket.

[Ed Harley]

The first day of testing was 1m18.861s by Felipe
No. Button.

[Jas]

Williams' livery looks kind of plain and boring to me. Are they lacking major sponsors?

Interview with Claire Williams today....saying that they will be announcing some pretty major sponserS from now till Melbourne!

[Kyss4k]

No. Button.

Oh, you're right. That was the "illegal" lap :lol

[Jas]

so is caterham also using pull rod suspension like us?!?!

[Super M]

15:21 Raikkonen heads out again. There is a good chance he'll end up on top of both the timesheet and most laps completed list.

[Kyss4k]

so is caterham also using pull rod suspension like us?!?!

yup

[RedPassion]

Good day so far for us :-), I can't believe that RB has 0 km on their pocket.
I have a strange feeling about that because we had the same good reliability in nearly all the years until know,but specially in 2011 with the F150 Italia and specially Mclaren was nowhere then.Guess whats happened,Our car was slow as dead and RB and Macca fast and reliable.I hope it does not mean nothing at all:-( :-P

[Ed Harley]

"14:59 AUTOSPORT's EDD STRAW reports Kimi was pressing on a bit with that last run, saying there was a bit of wheelspin and a rear-end wobble out of the last corner."

I hope they did some seup changes too to see how the car reacts.

Frankly, I would like to see a 1.25 time. With emphasis on see.

[OSS EL BOSS]

so is caterham also using pull rod suspension like us?!?!

It's Pull-rod suspension but very different from ours.

[RedPassion]

"14:59 AUTOSPORT's EDD STRAW reports Kimi was pressing on a bit with that last run, saying there was a bit of wheelspin and a rear-end wobble out of the last corner."

I hope they did some seup changes too to see how the car reacts.

Frankly, I would like to see a 1.25 time. With emphasis on see.
I think they may test torque problems and wheelspin situations.

[Muhammad Ansib]

I don't get it, some journo's were saying that we were conservative. But the other, with the dildo/penis, they just try do to the same as last year, as much air under the front as possible. We use the new rules to get air to where we want, by using a different chaped nose, like we can see in this picture... Whether it works better or not, I still think it isn't conservative?

where is the 6-8 element Front wing Ferrari had in 2013? RBR seems to have just shortened their wing from 2013 and bolted it on RB9.

[RedPassion]

where is the 6-8 element Front wing Ferrari had in 2013? RBR seems to have just shortened their wing from 2013 and bolted it on RB9.
I think we are going slightly a different route with this car concerning the front wing development,it seems that we are abandoning the former concept and they are testing a very simplistic one at the moment,they are for sure developing in WT right know the actual one for Barhain,so no panic,it does not mean anything know.By the way all cars have a very primitive aerodyamics at this stage.

[Ed Harley]

I think they may test torque problems and wheelspin situations.
Agree

[Jose Lorca]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwdFVfWhOVA

[Muhammad Ansib]

Sure did.
Source Mate. will be much appreciated.

[Ste]

Source Mate. will be much appreciated.
https://twitter.com/adamcooperf1/status/428153050335686656

[Ed Harley]

It rains.

[gjoko-mkd]

We have rain at the circuit now

[Muhammad Ansib]

https://twitter.com/adamcooperf1/status/428153050335686656

Respect Mate..Cheers..Forza Ferrari

[Avantifer12]

Aero A @F1_Aero on the flow-vis patterns on the nose.

https://twitter.com/F1_Aero/status/428186115766358017

[Ed Harley]

So about 30 laps for Team Red today without much of issues. They should now have plenty of data to study and simulate during this evening and night.

[Hornet]

It's over I guess for day 1


15:38 Rain has now hit Jerez, so that'll probably be it for today.

[Ste]

Vettel and Perez have headed out, with 14 minutes left...and a wet circuit.

[Hornet]

Damn, was hoping for a no show by Red Bull

[Ste]

Whoa...

Vettel does a 1.23.587































Just kidding. :-D

[Super M]

Whoa...

Vettel does a 1.23.587































Just kidding. :-D



Brilliant one!! :clap:lol

[Avantifer12]

Any leaked pictures of the Ferrari steering wheel? Interesting to see if we also has integrated the Mclaren display.
http://www.mclarenelectronics.com/Products/Product/PCU-8D

[Ste]

Any leaked pictures of the Ferrari steering wheel? Interesting to see if we also has integrated the Mclaren display.
http://www.mclarenelectronics.com/Products/Product/PCU-8D
lol, I don't think so... ;)

[gjoko-mkd]

Not another time,there are people with a problematic heart:rotfl

[Rishu]

Whoa...

Vettel does a 1.23.587































Just kidding. :-D

Damn you :D

[Ste]

Any leaked pictures of the Ferrari steering wheel? Interesting to see if we also has integrated the Mclaren display.
http://www.mclarenelectronics.com/Products/Product/PCU-8D
http://i42.tinypic.com/2u5g6ts.png

[Senna4Ever]

For first day not bad ... also compared to others ...

[Hornet]

Looks like a productive day for Ferrari. Relatively smooth running with some aero test thrown in, more well prepared than other teams.

[tifosi1993]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwdFVfWhOVA

Beautiful. :ferrarifl

[Forzi]

Kudos to Felipe http://instagram.com/p/jt-7EJnLag/

[tifosi1993]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/690/fv05.jpg

[Avantifer12]

http://i42.tinypic.com/2u5g6ts.png

Nice. Looks like the PCU-8D and would make sense since we are sort of using Mclaren (TAG) ECU. Btw I think these dispays are supplied by FIA.

[Super M]

1 Raikkonen (Ferrari), 1m27.104s (31 laps)
2 Hamilton (Mercedes), 1m27.820s (18 laps)
3 Bottas (Williams), 1m30.082s (7 laps)
4 Perez (Force India), 1m33.161s (11 laps)
5 Vergne (Toro Rosso), 1m36.530s (15 laps)
6 Gutierrez (Sauber), 1m42.257s (7 laps)
7 Vettel (Red Bull), no time (3 laps)
8 Ericsson (Caterham), no time (1 lap)

[ntukza]

I wonder what the Ferrari 1st lap was all about?

[Hornet]

Sauber's internal
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff483/Hornet1985/Mobile%20Uploads/BfEqjAvIAAAeOLA_zpse322ee93.jpg

[Kingdom Hearts]

First day of testing and no problems, that's great.

[tifosi1993]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/199/rlrf.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/837/2wo9.jpg

[tifosi1993]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/585/oalj.jpg

[Forzi]

Sebastian Vettel reported some kind of overheating in the back of the car. "We have to look what was catching fire."

[scuderiafan]

It was cleared by the FIA. :-)

really? great news, thanks mate :thumb

encouraging day. nuts that the cars are apparently 10 seconds slower than they were this time last year. Shows times don't mean anything. But still it is nice to see Ferrari top.

[Greig]

Decent opening day, off course Alonso would take a second or so off that time by Kimi so even better :-)

[hrc5555]

This is nice, today we have deleted Mercedes advantage from Silverstone and get testing advantage over RedBull! :clap

[RedPassion]

Sebastian Vettel reported some kind of overheating in the back of the car. "We have to look what was catching fire."
Probably they will cry to the FIA to change the all engine with a nuclear reactor for safety reasons.

[RedPassion]

Guys i was reading about Adrian Newey saying that even if they received the 2014 aerodynamics and technical regulations more than 2 years ago(JUNY 2011),they suddenly:oops recognised that the new low noses could be dangerous(oh yeah,even if of course the most Adrian Newey designed F1 cars of the new era were low noses,almost identical to the F14 T or the W05).http://www.sobreruedas.org/var/sbr/storage/images/galerias/formula_1/monoplazas_2008/red_bull_rb4/red_bull_rb4/48920-1-esl-ES/red_bull_rb41.jpg
I believe they have some nose that would not comply with the rules at the moment and that they want to change the rules to accomodate their nose.I alway found it disgusting,playing own interests in the name of safety,and i am afraid that as with the 2013 tyres the other teams and the Fia will give it away.What do you think?

[Kristof_F40]

Sebastian Vettel reported some kind of overheating in the back of the car. "We have to look what was catching fire."

Probably vibrations of there engine ;)
He's a cry baby,
didn't Alonso once finish a race (with Renault), where the isolation of his seat was broken or something and his back was burned?

[Forzi]

Imagine, if this nose worked and gave a big advantage to Caterham and everyone was forced to copy it... :Cube

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/01-2014-Caterham-CAT05-Praesentation-Jerez-fotoshowImage-5aaef7bb-751322.jpg

[F2002]

Imagine, if this nose worked and gave a big advantage to Caterham and everyone was forced to copy it... :Cube

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/01-2014-Caterham-CAT05-Praesentation-Jerez-fotoshowImage-5aaef7bb-751322.jpg

Imagine if they all get an erection at the start of the GP :lol

[stefa]

Just got back from the work and saw results. I am more than pleased :-)

[stefa]

Imagine if they all get an erection at the start of the GP :lol


:-)

[stefa]

Imagine, if this nose worked and gave a big advantage to Caterham and everyone was forced to copy it... :Cube

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/01-2014-Caterham-CAT05-Praesentation-Jerez-fotoshowImage-5aaef7bb-751322.jpg

Disaster looking creature of a car

[Katu]

i think the most positive thing is that Kimi did the most laps, times for me at the moment are irrelevant

[gjoko-mkd]

Sauber's internal
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff483/Hornet1985/Mobile%20Uploads/BfEqjAvIAAAeOLA_zpse322ee93.jpg

Look at the exhaust pipes,their orientation are right up to the turbo charger ,unlike RB`s where are down first

[Paulpg87]

Kimi interviewed by italian tv said that he had gone super slow to avoid breaking tha car.. and doen't give a **** about being 1st

[Hornet]

Look at the exhaust pipes,their orientation are right up to the turbo charger ,unlike RB`s where are down first

Yeah, that's true. Somehow it looks different from the official picture release by Ferrari where the pipes goes down and backwards before going up. Here (the Sauber) it looks like it immediately curl upwards to the turbo

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff483/Hornet1985/Mobile%20Uploads/engine_zps1f27729a.png

[Rob]

Yeah, that's true. Somehow it looks different from the official picture release by Ferrari where the pipes goes down and backwards before going up. Here (the Sauber) it looks like it immediately curl upwards to the turbo

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff483/Hornet1985/Mobile%20Uploads/engine_zps1f27729a.png

There was rumours about our outlet pipes the other week, seems as if it was true. ;-)

[wisepie]

i think the most positive thing is that Kimi did the most laps, times for me at the moment are irrelevant

Dead right, Katu, no need to get too pleased with ourselves yet but it's certainly encouraging.....may it continue that way! Well done so far, ragazzi, and Kimi too.:pray

[Avanzamento]

Yeah, that's true. Somehow it looks different from the official picture release by Ferrari where the pipes goes down and backwards before going up. Here (the Sauber) it looks like it immediately curl upwards to the turbo

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff483/Hornet1985/Mobile%20Uploads/engine_zps1f27729a.png

Yes, it is different because this picture has very little in common with the real Engine.

IIRC, the 3D picture of the 059/3 was shown to just some journalists during the presentation in Maranello. However, there are some sketches (one of them from Scarbs) which show that the Ferrari Engine's pipes are going upwards.

[Ferris]

Look at the exhaust pipes,their orientation are right up to the turbo charger ,unlike RB`s where are down first

Yes this is in line with the rumours of the exhaust orientation. Ferrari tried to hide this and misdirect the competition with their "official" images of the engine but one of the invited guests decided to divulge what he saw in a sketch. Seems he was spot on, I don't think he will be getting an invite next year though from Ferrari. There was a reason they asked them not to bring in their phones and camera's.

I would prefer Ferrari don't show us anything and keep their secrets under wraps so they can keep their advantage longer.

Look at RB. Their success has largely been down to people not understanding how they were so fast so the competition were forever guessing what their secret was and asking for clarification from the FIA in the wrong area.

Look at Ferrari; before the season has begun we have info on exhaust layout, water to air inter-cooler and Renault/Merc lobbying for a 3-4 kilo compulsory turbo shield.

Either Ferrari or our customer teams need to keep their mouths shut and get on with the job. I don't want another Nigel in our organisation!

[Jose Lorca]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5hN6Rer6Q

[stefa]

What happen to RB today? No time at all?!

[mirafiori]

Yes this is in line with the rumours of the exhaust orientation. Ferrari tried to hide this and misdirect the competition with their "official" images of the engine but one of the invited guests decided to divulge what he saw in a sketch. Seems he was spot on, I don't think he will be getting an invite next year though from Ferrari. There was a reason they asked them not to bring in their phones and camera's.

I would prefer Ferrari don't show us anything and keep their secrets under wraps so they can keep their advantage longer.

Look at RB. Their success has largely been down to people not understanding how they were so fast so the competition were forever guessing what their secret was and asking for clarification from the FIA in the wrong area.

Look at Ferrari; before the season has begun we have info on exhaust layout, water to air inter-cooler and Renault/Merc lobbying for a 3-4 kilo compulsory turbo shield.

Either Ferrari or our customer teams need to keep their mouths shut and get on with the job. I don't want another Nigel in our organisation!

Well said.

[ntukza]

Kimi interviewed by italian tv said that he had gone super slow to avoid breaking tha car.. and doen't give a **** about being 1st

Link? It would be great if he really said that. I hope he didn't use those exact words, though.

[wacc]

http://www.f1-direct.net/2014/img/epjerez/014.jpg

[Greig]

Pat Fry seems to be enjoying Italian food a bit too much :-D

[Rob]

Pat Fry seems to be enjoying Italian food a bit too much :-D

:lol

[Paulpg87]

Link? It would be great if he really said that. I hope he didn't use those exact words, though.

No link, it was television. Maybe there will be soon an article.

Ne also said that he's happy but the car lacks of grip

[Nova]

Good running today, n I dont give a **** if we're top times either.:-D

[ntukza]

How awesome would it be if Ferrari produced a major engine upgrade towards the cut-off period.

[hrc5555]

How awesome would it be if Ferrari produced a major engine upgrade towards the cut-off period.

When it is?

[RedPassion]

I spotted the first small visible update.The underbody attached to the bargeboards is different to the one from the Launch.

[hrc5555]

How awesome would it be if Ferrari produced a major engine upgrade towards the cut-off period.

I think I read somewhere that engine freeze starts from today 28.01.
Anyone can confirm that?

[Hornet]

Pat Fry seems to be enjoying Italian food a bit too much :-D

:lol
James Allison may join them soon

[RedPassion]

I think I read somewhere that engine freeze starts from today 28.01.
Anyone can confirm that?
Nope.28.02.

[Kyss4k]

Nope.28.02.

Wasn't the plan (somewhere in the past now probably) that this year, the engine developmnet will be free and next year, there would be few upgrades possible and after the team uses them all, it is set in stone?

[F1NAC]

Wasn't the plan (somewhere in the past now probably) that this year, the engine developmnet will be free and next year, there would be few upgrades possible and after the team uses them all, it is set in stone?
from 28.02 onwards engines will be frozen.After that they can upgrade engine only if there is reliability problem . Similar in 2010 happened when we had problem on V8

[Kristof_F40]

from 28.02 onwards engines will be frozen.After that they can upgrade engine only if there is reliability problem . Similar in 2010 happened when we had problem on V8

Which problem did we had?

[Hornet]

From what I understand, the engine will be gradually frozen part by part between 2015-2018. Here this article explains the parts to be frozen for each year:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/09/16/fia-to-guard-against-extreme-engines-in-2014/

It's dated Sept last year though. Did something change?

[Kyss4k]

From what I understand, the engine will be gradually frozen part by part between 2015-2018. Here this article explains the parts to be frozen for each year:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/09/16/fia-to-guard-against-extreme-engines-in-2014/

It's dated Sept last year though. Did something change?

This is what I ment.

[hrc5555]

This is what I ment.

I wonder how Honda will implement in this freeze rules!? :Hmm

[Liscia]

Just now checked today's results and what good news! It may not mean much in the scheme of things but
it means a whole lot to me! Thank you Kimi and welcome back for more good times! FORZA FERRARI!!!

[ntukza]

Bring on tomorrow, I say!

[Rob]

Raikkonen: “A good start”
http://i61.tinypic.com/16718j9.jpg
Jerez de la Frontera, 28 January – “A good start.” As usual, Kimi Raikkonen’s evaluation was short and to the point, after the F14 T’s track debut. The Finn completed 32 laps on the Andalusian track, which was more than anyone else today.

It was a very unusual day, although that was to be expected. It was inevitable that, with cars that are of an almost completely new design, there would be teething troubles that would slow down the teams’ work of developing the cars. Scuderia Ferrari had its troubles, especially in the morning. But in the afternoon, the Finn was able to do a bit more consistent running.

“The biggest challenge now is to ensure everything works,” Kimi told www.ferrari.com. “The new cars are much more complicated than the previous ones and there are a thousand details that can slow down the work. This morning, we’d have liked to do a few more laps but in the afternoon I think we did a good job. From a driving point of view, I didn’t feel any amazing difference, although it’s much too early to give an opinion on this.”

“Overall, we can say it was a good start. We have a solid base from which to work over the coming days. The times from this test mean nothing and we will only begin to understand something only in Bahrain. The cars are much slower? It’s pointless making comparisons with the past because everything is completely different.”

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/raikkonen-a-good-start#sthash.QASAutua.dpuf

[F1NAC]

Which problem did we had?

engine were running above the recommended temperature in qualy. After first race in Bahrain both Massa and Alonso replaced engines and lost them for the season

[Nero Horse]

I'm really happy with the start of the season so far. I really like the look of our car and despite what some whingers say I think it's beautiful. Well done Ferrari for not putting any grotesque dildo nose on the car, a la Macca or FI. Our car's nose is aesthetically very nice and clean.

We've had a positive start to the testing as well and hopefully we'll continue going only forward and then be right at the top in Oz in March.



Forza Ferrari!!! :ferrarifl

[Kristof_F40]

engine were running above the recommended temperature in qualy. After first race in Bahrain both Massa and Alonso replaced engines and lost them for the season

Thanks

[Tony]

The F14-T may not look very nice in pictures, but she sure looks nice in on track videos :-D

[stefa]

The F14-T may not look very nice in pictures, but she sure looks nice in on track videos :-D

:oops was thinking the same.... On studio pictures it doesn't look that nice, but seeing it today on the track it is more pleasant to be seen :-)

[Honzus]

F14-T, seems powerful :-)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5hN6Rer6Q

[Suzie]

Williams' livery looks kind of plain and boring to me. Are they lacking major sponsors?

Williams are running a test livery, they won't be launching their livery proper along with some new sponsors (including probably Martini) closer to the first race :-)

The Ferrari looks SO much better in action that it did in photos and as for the Caterham... it is an abomination. Although I have to say some of you blokes seem completely pre-occupied with all the phallic symbols. Hmmm what's that about?

[gjoko-mkd]

Find differences in the sound if you can


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXNLQQC_AGU

[Richred]

Yes this is in line with the rumours of the exhaust orientation. Ferrari tried to hide this and misdirect the competition with their "official" images of the engine but one of the invited guests decided to divulge what he saw in a sketch. Seems he was spot on, I don't think he will be getting an invite next year though from Ferrari. There was a reason they asked them not to bring in their phones and camera's.

I would prefer Ferrari don't show us anything and keep their secrets under wraps so they can keep their advantage longer.

Look at RB. Their success has largely been down to people not understanding how they were so fast so the competition were forever guessing what their secret was and asking for clarification from the FIA in the wrong area.

Look at Ferrari; before the season has begun we have info on exhaust layout, water to air inter-cooler and Renault/Merc lobbying for a 3-4 kilo compulsory turbo shield.

Either Ferrari or our customer teams need to keep their mouths shut and get on with the job. I don't want another Nigel in our organisation!



must raise a few euros to help improve the safety of sauber .. (by the spy shots)

[Kyss4k]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s99QFe6htJ4

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

Really annoying and disappointing that Sauber have given that shot away. No point Ferrari trying to keep everything under wraps if Sauber are going to give it away so easily. This just gives other teams ideas now which we really can't afford to do if we want to start off on the front foot.

[shamim179]

The new engine sounds are appealing but sound modern or rather clinical. The rise and fall of the engine's amplitude is very controlled. It also sounds like it's been mixed in with that of an electric commuter train or even a RC car somehow emitting a low frequency sound. I like it! There will be greater and greater emphasis on electrical technology for car locomotion so it only makes sense for F1 to incorporate this to some extent with their cars.

[DIEK]

Photo gallery of first test season in Jerez. (http://comunidad.autofacil.es/galeria-multimedia/Generico/Test-Jerez-2014/50445/1.html)

[Rob]

Just catching up on Teds note book. Hearing our car under braking reminds me alot of the Audi R18 E-Tron.

But she looks alot better on track.

[Kyss4k]

Here is a clip more similar to how will the engine sound in TV probably (it's from Sky, so I would think their mics are quite decent - even though the video is only in 480p as the uploader is a jerk probably)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnLvvs3ZzQ

[vagos]

Don't like,the sound...... :( missing the V10 and the old V12.... :(

[Ste]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s99QFe6htJ4
The clip of our car from 2:18 reminds me SO much of the F2001. One of my favourite cars.

[F-e-r-r-nando]

Probably they will cry to the FIA to change the all engine with a nuclear reactor for safety reasons.
LOL... after reading page after page in this thread with several posts joking how RBR would complain to the FIA asking for this or that change to be allowed for their car, when I got to this post (a nuclear reactor for safety reasons) I started laughing uncontrollably!... Well done :-)

Seriously though, what's with Newey b!tching about how they developed so late into last season that they are a little behind where they want to be right now? (or something to that effect). Come on, half way through '13 we all knew they'd walk to both championships... All their extra development past mid-season was just to show-off their dominance and help Seb gather more records.

It sure would be great if all that late season bravado-overkill does end up costing them this year.

[Imperatore]

Imagine, if this nose worked and gave a big advantage to Caterham and everyone was forced to copy it... :Cube

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/01-2014-Caterham-CAT05-Praesentation-Jerez-fotoshowImage-5aaef7bb-751322.jpg


Wow that is one of the ugliest F1 cars of all time.

[bluesilhouettes]

I think the f1 turbo engine was put in the La Ferrari for testing before.
But it was legal right ?

The sound of the engine very complicated, just like the engine. :rotfl

KERS must have been efficiently working intead of engine brake, I cant hear it in the sound.

[bkircher]

Does anyone have any high rez images from today???

[dfunk257]

sorry guys i dont like the sound of the cars atm. that nice high pitch engine sound is missing and thats what i love the most

[bobi_ve]

Does someone have more info about these speculations?

RB10' FRONT S-DUCT
5692

W05' T-Difusser

5693

[Kyss4k]

Well, for starters, we've got a new ingredient to throw into the mix: today has been nominated as a wet weather tyre test day.

[Sempre_Ferrari]

Surely that will set some back a bit as some teams hardly got their cars going yesterday so not sure how they gonna test wet tires.It does make sense due to the weather though so just as well that we got some good dry laps in yesterday.

[Kristof_F40]

I get it that we want to test wet wetter tyres, but how is this usefull if team aren't pushing? I mean with not all the power, is it representative?

[piglett]

is it representative?
No! The wet run was supposed to be run on Friday. By then all the teams should have had some proper laptimes, and cars more or less troubleshot. Since nature always has it's way, and cars are not being pushed, wet running will be slow.

[Forzi]

What the...????

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfIkfq9CcAAhoKD.jpg

Those can't be wings. Sensors?

[F1NAC]

Does someone have more info about these speculations?

RB10' FRONT S-DUCT
5692

W05' T-Difusser

5693
yes on rb you can see just over total logo is some kind of duct so there the air comes out

[slak]

What the...????

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfIkfq9CcAAhoKD.jpg

What car is this?

[Kristof_F40]

No! The wet run was supposed to be run on Friday. By then all the teams should have had some proper laptimes, and cars more or less troubleshot. Since nature always has it's way, and cars are not being pushed, wet running will be slow.

The thing that disturbs me: from what I read, it has rained during the night, so track is damp, but it wasn't raining anymore, but the decided to make it even more wet.. But what if it rains tomorrow than we have 2 days of wet tesitng.. can't be good..

[Forzi]

What car is this?

McLaren.

[Kyss4k]

What car is this?

McLaren. This is what we were talking about here. They crated ther rear suspension to work as the beam wing.

[Forzi]

McLaren. This is what we were talking about here. They crated ther rear suspension to work as the beam wing.

That's rather brilliant.

[Rishu]

Is it what? triple deck diffuser?

[Forzi]

Seems like flattened wishbones.