Jerez Testing (finally)

[stefa]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/560/nal8.jpg

From this picture I don't get it why Ferrari needed to paint whole back of the car in black?!

[radosav]

I hope we don't see an all black Ferrari next year, if this weight saving trend continues the same way. Our car has now gotten more black every year. I don't mind the current black parts of the livery but for me this is definitely the maximum level of blackness that I can tolerate on a Ferrari F1 car. Hopefully next year Ferrari will find other ways to save weight than skimping on the beautiful red paint.

I am aware that this year car is designed by mathematicians , not by Pininfarina !
It is not pretty ,but i like it and if it becomes a winner i will forget all about the looks of the car! Maybe i will set its photo as desktop background!
For now i will use F10 !

[Rob]

Just like to say, i know RBR having bit of trouble atmo, is slightly funny. But please remember, it can/may still happen to us. So, the people laughing about their situation, will more than likely jump on here and bash the team for poor reliablity. No having ago at anyone, but please remember it can still happen to us.

As they say about Karma.

:thumb

[stefa]

5695

More black! No thanks!

[Hornet]

The black is actually paint.I read somewhere that Ferrari used a new black paint that is about a fifth the weight of normal red paint.:thumb

Wow. Hope they do the same for red paint in the future. Don't want the car to get blacker each year :-P

[stefa]

That photoshop is A) awful and B) worse looking than before.

:thumb
:clap

[stefa]

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In Gran Turismo 5 and 6 SPS3 game this thing goes insanely fast!

[wisepie]

Just like to say, i know RBR having bit of trouble atmo, is slightly funny. But please remember, it can/may still happen to us. So, the people laughing about their situation, will more than likely jump on here and bash the team for poor reliablity. No having ago at anyone, but please remember it can still happen to us.

As they say about Karma.

:thumb

Thank goodness for some reality, Rob! Yes it's going well, but we must be more that wary of our competitors at this early stage. Williams also look promising, hope it bodes well for you-know-who tomorrow!

[F1NAC]

From this picture I don't get it why Ferrari needed to paint whole back of the car in black?!

if you look better you will see that they didn't painted, you can see the carbon fibre material. They didn't paint that at all to save 0.5 kilos

[stefa]

Even if Redbull want a separate test..When would they schedule it.
Next test happens in 2 weeks.
Last test is the following week
and later 2 weeks Aus GP..
:lol

Personally i hope they dont get any.

Why would they!?!??!?!?

[stefa]

Well, it will be my first live F1 experience this year. :-s

Where are you planing to go (which race)?

[stefa]

Then for the sake of F1 they need to be kicked out,in 2 years they were not able to produce something near to what we would call an engine,as Montezemolo said,if they do not have the money for it they should change sport,well i add,if they are not able to compete with other constructors at the same level,without being helped all the time you should just leave.
:clap

[Kyss4k]

Was joking mate, I edited it after I saw your one.

Naughty boy :-! :-D

[stefa]

The black is actually paint.I read somewhere that Ferrari used a new black paint that is about a fifth the weight of normal red paint.:thumb

So next year all black Ferrari to save in weight!?

[Kyss4k]

Where are you planing to go (which race)?

Hungary. Christmas pressent

[Kyss4k]

So next year all black Ferrari to save in weight!?

Maybe they will invent red carbon fibre. How cool would that be? :-D

[stefa]

Hungary. Christmas pressent

This year is going to be my 20th anniversary of going to Hungaroring. When time comes for it if you need I'll send you some tips and trick for Hungaroring :-)

[stefa]

Maybe they will invent red carbon fibre. How cool would that be? :-D

Very cool!

[RedPassion]

:clap
I am not an ingeneer just a Tifoso and i dont mean being harsh on other teams,but this way to manipulate and cry by RB is just sickening and i cant take it anymore,sorry:roll

[stefa]

I am not an ingeneer just a Tifoso and i dont mean being harsh on other teams,but this way to manipulate and cry by RB is just sickening and i cant take it anymore,sorry:roll

Fully understand and support you!!!

[medeni73]

What is this, Art Academy or Racing Forum? Whats with all the whining about colors, shapes, optics and esthetics ??? people we need to WIN again and thats the most important thing and if we need to have pink car in order to do that then I'm for it and after couple of WDC and WCC I will start to brag about it too ;)

[Kyss4k]

This year is going to be my 20th anniversary of going to Hungaroring. When time comes for it if you need I'll send you some tips and trick for Hungaroring :-)

Wow, happy anniversary! Sure, I would love to know more, so that would be great. :wave

[stefa]

Wow, happy anniversary! Sure, I would love to know more, so that would be great. :wave

Not a problem at all! When time comes for it I'll write you PM about it!

[SS454]

What is this, Art Academy or Racing Forum? Whats with all the whining about colors, shapes, optics and esthetics ??? people we need to WIN again and thats the most important thing and if we need to have pink car in order to do that then I'm for it and after couple of WDC and WCC I will start to brag about it too ;)

Do you try to hook up with 400 lb women that look like their face got run over by a truck? I mean by your logic, poon is poon , doesn't matter the appearance as long as it gets the job done.

[Hermann]

What is this, Art Academy or Racing Forum? Whats with all the whining about colors, shapes, optics and esthetics ??? people we need to WIN again and thats the most important thing and if we need to have pink car in order to do that then I'm for it and after couple of WDC and WCC I will start to brag about it too ;)

A sense for aesthethics is part of human nature. If it was all about winning and not about the looks, nobody would watch, just read the results.

[Ed Harley]

"Renault believes it can fix F1 engine problems at Jerez test"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112346

If that is the case then the joyful cheering here has been premature and wasting of two testing days with Renault/RBR resources is nothing. We'll see.

[Bubbles]

So next year all black Ferrari to save in weight!?

They could roll out a black Ferrari with no stickers on it and say it's made by the Special Projects division within Maranello - like the SR-71 Blackbird.

[ManFromMilan]

I am not an ingeneer just a Tifoso and i dont mean being harsh on other teams,but this way to manipulate and cry by RB is just sickening and i cant take it anymore,sorry:roll




:thumb

[Rishu]

Weight conservation from stickers??
Should ask Alonso & Raikkonen to poop more in the morning, will help a great deal

[Dino]

So next year all black Ferrari to save in weight!?

Ferrari F1 will never be all black,but
The black paint has thermal functions

It is a particular polymer that has a very important feature: it is 10 times lighter than a normal painting and especially has a very high thermal conductivity (8 times higher than that of copper). We can understand then why Ferrari had chosen to paint with this polymer such a sensitive area : better heat evacuation, and a sensible weight reduction.

[SilverSpeed]

Am I the only one who sees this:

RB10 = aRe BeaTEN.

Haha they know it already!!!

[stefa]

Am I the only one who sees this:

RB10 = aRe BeaTEN.

Haha they know it already!!!

Good one! Bravo :clap

[Ferrari Rules]

I see a lot people worried about paint when they should be worried by a clever rear suspension design by McClaren.

[WS6TransAm01]

Am I the only one who sees this:

RB10 = aRe BeaTEN.

Haha they know it already!!!

In the words of Winston Wolf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu1JMbSLPvc

There is still 10 days of testing and a long season ahead of us.

[Aberracus]

Am I the only one who sees this:

RB10 = aRe BeaTEN.

Haha they know it already!!!

Just great :rotfl

[Tony]

If you're looking for members for your extraordinary group ... I would join ... what does it cost for one year?

cheers ...

Haha! Entrance is free but you have to agree to form an angry mob with me and my other members (as soon as I get them lol) and storm Milton Keynes with pitchkforks and tomato sauce (or just really old, rotten, tomatoes) !! ;)

[Tony]

As far as the teams go, Id love to see a good old fashioned Ferrari Mac Williams battle this year.

That would bring back some good memories!!

[RedPassion]

"Renault believes it can fix F1 engine problems at Jerez test"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112346

If that is the case then the joyful cheering here has been premature and wasting of two testing days with Renault/RBR resources is nothing. We'll see.
Actually pretty good if you ask me,so maybe they wont get a special iteration to modify it.

[RedPassion]

Haha! Entrance is free but you have to agree to form an angry mob with me and my other members (as soon as I get them lol) and storm Milton Keynes with pitchkforks and tomato sauce (or just really old, rotten, tomatoes) !! ;)
Are any old stilish rotten eggs allowed????:pray

[Tony]

Are any stilish rotten eggs allowed????:pray

Haha sure, but those can only be thrown at Sebastien Vettel ;)

I wonder if Weber is interested in joining........

[RedPassion]

Ferrari F1 will never be all black,but
The black paint has thermal functions

It is a particular polymer that has a very important feature: it is 10 times lighter than a normal painting and especially has a very high thermal conductivity (8 times higher than that of copper). We can understand then why Ferrari had chosen to paint with this polymer such a sensitive area : better heat evacuation, and a sensible weight reduction.
Can you imagine a dialogue between Kimi and Fernando:
Alonso:Where this smell is coming from?
Kimi:I have no Idea!
Alonso:Kimi,your feet just stink!Why dont you wear socks anymore?
Kimi:I had to choose between a diet or no underwear,Weight reduction you know.
Alonso:you are disgusting!
Kimi:Leave me alone i know what i am doing!

[RedPassion]

Haha sure, but those can only be thrown at Sebastien Vettel ;)

I wonder if Weber is interested in joining........

Do i get double points for hitting the FINGER??????:champ

[Kyss4k]

Do i get double points for hitting the FINGER??????:champ

Only with the last egg...

[RedPassion]

:clap:clap
Only with the last egg...

[medeni73]

A sense for aesthethics is part of human nature. If it was all about winning and not about the looks, nobody would watch, just read the results.

Let me put it another way: if in a fairytale someone comes up to you and say we GUARANTEE you WCC but the car must be ALL black you would say NO??? and after that you would say you're tifosi????
after all bunch of you guys cried before car revealing "if its fast and if it wins we dont care how it looks!" and what is it now????

[RedPassion]

Let me put it another way: if in a fairytale someone comes up to you and say we GUARANTEE you WCC but the car must be ALL black you would say NO??? and after that you would say you're tifosi????

You can always explain it away to the media by saying you are color blind:lewis

[Kyss4k]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yft5spg9gQQ

[medeni73]

Gary Anderson again repeats that our car is $§%&
" The Ferrari looks very similar to how it was in previous years. If anything gives up, it's the rear end that's losing out on corner entry and exit, which is not a good characteristic."

Does he really hate us so much or what? :)

[Forzi]

Gary Anderson again repeats that our car is $§%&
" The Ferrari looks very similar to how it was in previous years. If anything gives up, it's the rear end that's losing out on corner entry and exit, which is not a good characteristic."

Does he really hate us so much or what? :)
Can not imagine if there's at least one team that doesn't have a problem like that now. I mean, how is it possible not to have these problems with these regs/engine?

[RedPassion]

Gary Anderson again repeats that our car is $§%&
" The Ferrari looks very similar to how it was in previous years. If anything gives up, it's the rear end that's losing out on corner entry and exit, which is not a good characteristic."

Does he really hate us so much or what? :)
He is desperately searching someone that give him a Job,He never built something legendary so.........

[AfterLife]

Gary Anderson again repeats that our car is $§%&
" The Ferrari looks very similar to how it was in previous years. If anything gives up, it's the rear end that's losing out on corner entry and exit, which is not a good characteristic."

Does he really hate us so much or what? :)

What he said about our car in 2012 and 2013 was simply true. So i guess he knows what he says.

[Kyss4k]

What he said about our car in 2012 and 2013 was simply true. So i guess he knows what he says.

Ferrari in 2013 had the best car in the first few races.

[RedPassion]

What he said about our car in 2012 and 2013 was simply true. So i guess he knows what he says.
Right,but an oversteering car is not a bad car,as Coultard somewhere said"Often competitive F1 cars are more difficult to drive than slow ones because they are on the edge,and they can be twitchy or snappy",for example Hamilton loves snappy cars.As for the F2012 well quite easy to say it was slow,a dog of a car on the contrary the F138 was quite good.He is good at pointing fingers at other designers,but he himself was never a great one,he even resigned in 1998 when Mike Gascoyne joined Jordan because the car was a dog,and they had back then a consistent budget,maybe like Lotus Renault today.

[AfterLife]

Ferrari in 2013 had the best car in the first few races.

Yes and In 2013 Gary Anderson said our car is in good shape according to tests.

[giodap]

Ferrari in 2013 had the best car in the first few races.

could be cold tyres gary :wave:wave:wave

[Kyss4k]

Yes and In 2013 Gary Anderson said our car is in good shape according to tests.

Really? I remember them all saying we struggle with traction as we did in 2012.

[RedPassion]

could be cold tyres gary :wave:wave:wave
He designed a car the EJ196 that in the words of Martin Brundle"had more grip upside down":dohhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_196

[AfterLife]

Really? I remember them all saying we struggle with traction as we did in 2012.

No.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/188728/1/anderson-alonso-my-bet-for-2013-f1-drivers-title.html

[giodap]

He designed a car the EJ196 that in the words of Martn Brundle"had more grip upside down":doh

i think it was testing last year he said that mclaren were on the pace... haha

[Ferrari Rules]

http://somersf1.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/mclaren-mp4-29-upgrade-wishbone-wings.html

Mclaren rear suspension detailed

[Nero Horse]

Ferrari F1 will never be all black,but
The black paint has thermal functions

It is a particular polymer that has a very important feature: it is 10 times lighter than a normal painting and especially has a very high thermal conductivity (8 times higher than that of copper). We can understand then why Ferrari had chosen to paint with this polymer such a sensitive area : better heat evacuation, and a sensible weight reduction.

Thanks for this explanation, it makes a whole lot of sense now.

[RedPassion]

i think it was testing last year he said that mclaren were on the pace... haha
He didnt specified with what.

[Nero Horse]

http://somersf1.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/mclaren-mp4-29-upgrade-wishbone-wings.html

Mclaren rear suspension detailed

Could this give them a huge advantage? Have we missed the innovation train already? I certainly hope not. *sigh* :-??

[Rob]

Kimi: “Two positive days”

Circuit: Jerez circuit – 4.428 km
Driver: Kimi Raikkonen
Car: Ferrari F14 T
Weather: air temperature 9/14°C, track temperature 10/15 °C. Light rain in the morning, sunny and cloudy in the afternoon.
Laps/Kms completed: 47/208
Best time: 1:24.812

Second day of testing at the Jerez de la Frontera circuit for Kimi Raikkonen at the wheel of the F14 T.

Because of the wet start to the day, the morning programme began with the testing requested by Pirelli, relating to development of their wet weather tyres. The Scuderia was quickly able to assess the intermediate tyres, thus making the most of the time remaining and the progressively drying track to begin work on the car in preparation for the afternoon’s programme.

By the end of the day, Raikkonen had managed to complete a total of 47 laps, the fastest in a time of 1.24.812. He continued the task of checking the car’s functionality as well as trying a few set-up changes.

“Every time we go out on track we learn something new” – said Kimi to www.ferrari.com – “This week the times don’t matter and the only thing that does is to do a good number of laps without any problems and fortunately, we have managed that on both days. The team is working hard and at the next test in Bahrain, we will continue to improve.”

Testing continues at this circuit tomorrow, when Fernando Alonso will make his season debut on track.

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/kimi-two-positive-days#sthash.fVM36A8r.dpuf

[Rob]

Allison on Kimi: “Very strong, incredibly precise”

Jerez de la Frontera, 29 January –A good start with Kimi Raikkonen and James Allison on the same wavelength at the end of the second of four days of testing at the Jerez circuit in southern Spain.

“We have obtained some good baselines from which to continue the development of the F14 T,” said the Scuderia’s Technical Director, talking to www.ferrari.com. “We are working mainly on car reliability and so far, we can claim to be reasonably satisfied because, even though we are talking about a car that’s almost totally new, we haven’t encountered any particular problems. We are also happy with the data parameters we have seen in terms of cooling, as well as those relating to aerodynamic downforce: both of them have matched our expectations.”

Asked for an opinion on Kimi’s second debut in red, Allison had this to say. “He is still the same strong driver, with his usual phlegmatic approach,” added the Englishman with a smile. “It’s difficult for him to get over excited about something, but he gives the engineers the feedback they need to do their job. He might not say much, but he is incredibly accurate when it comes to explain what needs to be done to make the car quicker.”

Allison confessed to not having paid the slightest attention to what the other teams have been doing, therefore he is unable to give an opinion on how competitive the F14 T might be. “There’s too much to do to think about the others. We have to keep an eye on every detail, because it only takes the smallest thing to leave you stranded. Between now and Melbourne, we will have to organise every last detail to be ready for the first race.”

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/allison-kimi-very-strong-incredibly-precise#sthash.mOrhiKao.dpuf

[Ferrari Rules]

Could this give them a huge advantage? Have we missed the innovation train already? I certainly hope not. *sigh* :-??

I hope not. What worries me a little is that I don't see anything on the car that impresses me at all. Our rear is tight but the RB10's is even tighter, let's not forget they are Renault F1's development team at the end of the day, so they have played a big part on the development of the engine and Renault made sure to suite Newey's needs. Mclaren have thought outside the box and have designed something new which make a lot sense aerodynamically. Us... I'm not sure yet.

Sincerely, this car does not excite me at all! Hope that my pessimism ends up in the bin when we arrive in Melbourne.

[Ste]

Gary Anderson says our car is similar to the last few - the rear gives up on braking and acceleration and that's not a good trait.

Hopefully he's talking as much rubbish as usual...

[Nero Horse]

Hope that my pessimism ends up in the bin when we arrive in Melbourne.

I hope so too LOL. :-)

Let's look at things on the positive side, we are the team that has made the most problem free start to testing so far, and hopefully we'll continue improving every day.

[xpman]

5700

I read that Mr Newey has expressed his concerns over the safety of lower noses on the cars.
I think is coz he's Unable to come up with a nose design that will Dominate and so he comes up with this to help SV "gently" push cars off ( lol ) the fact that Torro Rosso have questioned the legality of the Lotus design . A 2 prong attack 1 on the legality of a rival team and under the disguise of concern of safety as a hole over All cars.

[Lilani]

No.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/188728/1/anderson-alonso-my-bet-for-2013-f1-drivers-title.html

Last year after the first tests Gary Anderson said Mclaren was properly on top. He thought Red Bull might be behind and he never said anything about Lotus doing well. From what I ve seen his predictions haven't always been the most accurate.

As for Gary Anderson's perceptions about the car, it might be true but perhaps it should also be remembered that Kimi drives more with of an oversteering style.

[radosav]

Gary Anderson says our car is similar to the last few - the rear gives up on braking and acceleration and that's not a good trait.

Hopefully he's talking as much rubbish as usual...

Well, i am not so sure!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Yft5spg9gQQ

[Jose Lorca]

Gary Anderson again repeats that our car is $§%&
" The Ferrari looks very similar to how it was in previous years. If anything gives up, it's the rear end that's losing out on corner entry and exit, which is not a good characteristic."

Does he really hate us so much or what? :)

I wouldn't pay much attention to Anderson at this point. Just yesterday he said that Red Bull looked the strongest :roll

We haven't done any set-up work, the track was green and low track temperatures mean tyres were cold. In these conditions I would expect everyone to struggle, and if other cars looked stable, it's because their drivers weren't trying hard enough.

[stefa]

I see a lot people worried about paint when they should be worried by a clever rear suspension design by McClaren.

Let's first see how that work and how big is the gain from it...

[stefa]

Let me put it another way: if in a fairytale someone comes up to you and say we GUARANTEE you WCC but the car must be ALL black you would say NO??? and after that you would say you're tifosi????
after all bunch of you guys cried before car revealing "if its fast and if it wins we dont care how it looks!" and what is it now????
I was one from the group "if its fast and if it wins we don't care how it looks!", and I still stick to it, but it is still early to judge is it fast... So the looks still matters to me :-)

[Jas]

When pushed on the exact cause of Red Bull's engine fire, Taffin insisted it was nothing to do with the design of the power unit, instead he hinted that Red Bull's car design may have been the cause. "No," he replied. "You may need to ask my colleagues at Red Bull [what caused that problem]. "It's the different intergration [between teams]," he added, suggesting Red Bull are packaging the unit differently to Toro Rosso and Caterham. It's believed Red Bull aren't providing enough cooling to certain areas of the power unit, particularly the energy recovery system. This could have caused the brief fire which curtailed their running. Red Bull have completed just 11 laps over two days, whilst Toro Rosso has done 15 (all on Tuesday) and Caterham 12 (all but one on Wednesday). - See more at: http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08457#sthash.FcRCoM5P.dpuf

[fronaldo]

Is it too early to raise doubt about our car?..Lets see..but clever from Mclaren for their rear suspension design

[Winter]

This year is going to be my 20th anniversary of going to Hungaroring. When time comes for it if you need I'll send you some tips and trick for Hungaroring :-)

This year will be my fist time of going to Hungary, or to any F1 GP at all.. I would be very gratefull , if you could give me some pointers as well.
I'm going to stay couple of weeks in Budapest, so any Hungary tips would be more than welcome.

And happy anniversary, you really must like the place :-)

[Ste]

If anyone wants one of the nicest pictures of our car, WITHOUT a pitot tube on, you can download it from the link below. I photoshopped it out.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10857712/ferrari_f14t_without_pitot.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/t0m4i0.jpg

[Nero Horse]

Well, i am not so sure!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Yft5spg9gQQ

You don't even know what caused that spin in the first place. It could've very well have been a simple mistake from Kimi himself and not because of the lack of grip in the rear.

[radosav]

You don't even know what caused that spin in the first place. It could've very well have been a simple mistake from Kimi himself and not because of the lack of grip in the rear.

yes , it could be anything. i was reading that teams have problem with rear brakes cause of ''brake by wire'' system, and need to find right algorithms to find right balance between braking and ERS harvesting.

[Nero Horse]

yes , it could be anything. i was reading that teams have problem with rear brakes cause of ''brake by wire'' system, and need to find right algorithms to find right balance between braking and ERS harvesting.

Well, there you go...

[radosav]

I still wanna hear this ferrari live. OMG !!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTeZRlpVweo&feature=player_detailpage

[Richred]

You don't even know what caused that spin in the first place. It could've very well have been a simple mistake from Kimi himself and not because of the lack of grip in the rear.

And our aero its, at the moment, really fairly simple.

[Ed Harley]

Interviews after 2nd day. James Allison's comments start around 10:58.

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/f1/9140611/1st-test-jerez-day-2-%E2%80%93-update

[anialonso]

Gary Anderson says our car is similar to the last few - the rear gives up on braking and acceleration and that's not a good trait.

Hopefully he's talking as much rubbish as usual...

He cant rate our car,not just yet when we do not have our latest Aero updates which will planned for Bahrain test,there we will see how the F14T handles.
And we also dont know the fuel loads,carry heavy fuel would easily make a car look twitchy and oversteery
But its quite irritating to see that everybody blames Ferrari to be conservative,based on their inspection they probably feel that ToroRosso can build a better car than Ferrari.

[Avantifer12]

Read this rumor on Twitter yesterday from Darren Heath @F1Photographer if it's true I find it very amusing :-)

https://twitter.com/F1Photographer/status/428579360128262144

[Avantifer12]

And our aero its, at the moment, really fairly simple.

I wouldn't say so actually, Starting with our nose it looks quite developed and having seen the flow visualisation we could see how the air is 'rolling' off the nose and under, our sidepods looks to be very carefully desgined and the flow conditioners on top of the sidepods takes time to get right which I think we have. The RW looks complex maybe the most complex with all cutouts and strakes. The FW is where I could say it looks fairly simple compared to others. A area that I recently discovered was our diffuser particular the middle part that looks interesting I don't know if it brings any big gains but I guess it could create downforce with less drag if you apply the FW theory (more elements is better)

The spin looked strange, he had no grip at all and if you look closely I think he is locking up so my nominee for the cause is cold tyres. I haven't had a look at the new brake balance system but that could also been a factor.

[Senna4Ever]

Haha! Entrance is free but you have to agree to form an angry mob with me and my other members (as soon as I get them lol) and storm Milton Keynes with pitchkforks and tomato sauce (or just really old, rotten, tomatoes) !! ;)

:)
That is fine for me
I can send a short video "Senna4Ever in rage" for application if I fit to your requirements.
Also I have customer in Milton Keynes (and it is not RB) ... so I could hide it as a business trip ;)

Back to business:
- personally I quiet happy with the reliability so far. Of course not that much Merc was able to do but still good for us
- I like the look of the car more and more the more pictures I see from track ...

#GoodJobFerrari!!!! so far
:ferrarifl

Even if it makes me smile that RB and Renault is struggling right now it is much too early to count them out. We know that they can bounce back ...
But more important for me is to see how Finger Boy will react if it isn't running his way ... how strong will his love be for RB ...

[Forzi]

08:06 Alonso makes it three, joining former team-mate Massa out on circuit. Which feels a little strange to see.

[Forzi]

A good live timining, shows whose on track. Has everything besides actual stints:
http://www.f1today.net/en/live-update

[jgdswaran]

Autosport test day three link : http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/693

[f1tomi8]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfNqn6lCMAAX6n0.jpgAlonso with one big sensor.

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfNpk8XIUAAVZ0B.jpg

[voiko]

Caterham stopped already in pits - more troubled Renault problems?!

[eugene22n]

I've only followed F1 for around 10 years. For those more experienced, has there every been a year with uglier cars? I can't believe some of these noses.

[jgdswaran]

Felipe in Williams suite5701

[jgdswaran]

08:31 Alonso, sporting "aero mapping" sensors, moves onto four laps for the morning.

[f1tomi8]

http://f1tcdn.net/gallery/var/resizes/2014/jerez-30/jm1430ja07.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfNxEiXCAAEiM84.jpg:large

[anialonso]

I have a good feeling that Ferrari are going to complete a reasonable mileage on F14T..:thumb

[Ed Harley]

According to F1Today.net it's only 5 degrees Celsius.

[jgdswaran]

08:45 We've already had a collective 21 laps after just 40 minutes of day three, but we haven't seen everyone yet.

Red Bull remains the most obvious absentee, but we're also yet to see anything from Force India or Sauber - while Marussia is still hard at work trying to roll its car out for the first time.

[jgdswaran]

Are we done any long runs yesterday?

[f1tomi8]

Alonso's arrival brought two things: more police officers and spectators to the stands :D

[Bubbles]

I have a good feeling that Ferrari are going to complete a reasonable mileage on F14T..:thumb

Yeah, but that don't make the car fast. After reading that this car has the same rear-end problems as the previous two, I'm starting to have a bad feeling, like there's been no real progress. Sure, the wind-tunnel finally works, but how are we suppose to get poles and wins with poor traction, especially with a new engine that's giving out much more torque than the V8? The rear tires are going to be destroyed from wheel-spin.

Not good.

[S1000RR]

Yeah, but that don't make the car fast. After reading that this car has the same rear-end problems as the previous two, I'm starting to have a bad feeling, like there's been no real progress. Sure, the wind-tunnel finally works, but how are we suppose to get poles and wins with poor traction, especially with a new engine that's giving out much more torque than the V8? The rear tires are going to be destroyed from wheel-spin.

Not good.

Relax, all speculations.

[jgdswaran]

08:56 Scratch that, Alonso holds the top spot now.

Moments after Massa goes fastest, Alonso pips his former team-mate with a 1m29.267s.

08:55 In between tweeting, Hamilton goes top for Mercedes with a 1m36.344s.

Incidentally, Alonso holds the second fastest lap of the day, even though he pitted and therefore crossed the line en route to his garage.

[anialonso]

Scratch that, Alonso holds the top spot now.

Moments after Massa goes fastest, Alonso pips his former team-mate with a 1m29.267s.

[SinanOzerS]

1:27.515.We're started bit early today.Air and track temperatures still very low.

[anialonso]

Alonso improves again next time round, this time posting a 1m27.515s.

[jgdswaran]

08:59 Alonso improves again next time round, this time posting a 1m27.515s.

[pluto]

Mclaren has innovative rear suspension, while as usual there is nothing innovative about our car, its just meat and potatoes. When was the last time Ferrari innovated an effective design element?

[anialonso]

Yeah, but that don't make the car fast. After reading that this car has the same rear-end problems as the previous two, I'm starting to have a bad feeling, like there's been no real progress. Sure, the wind-tunnel finally works, but how are we suppose to get poles and wins with poor traction, especially with a new engine that's giving out much more torque than the V8? The rear tires are going to be destroyed from wheel-spin.

Not good.

Relax this test is only to get mileage for the engine and all the system checks..
Bahrain is where team will go for performance updates and Ferrari must have that knowledge of the drawbacks of the current car,so they will improve it over time

[Ed Harley]

Yeah, but that don't make the car fast. After reading that this car has the same rear-end problems as the previous two, I'm starting to have a bad feeling, like there's been no real progress. Sure, the wind-tunnel finally works, but how are we suppose to get poles and wins with poor traction, especially with a new engine that's giving out much more torque than the V8? The rear tires are going to be destroyed from wheel-spin.

Not good.
Come on, it's only 3rd day of preseason testing. :-)

[Ste]

Looks like Alonso is getting down to it pretty quickly.

[anialonso]

Mclaren has innovative rear suspension, while as usual there is nothing innovative about our car, its just meat and potatoes. When was the last time Ferrari innovated an effective design element?

leaving Mclaren no other team has shown any other innovation..
with Ferrari,they have the best cooling package it seems that the moment..
and if lucky we might see some innovations in the upcoming test

[jgdswaran]

Incidentally, temperatures are still very low - both air and track are just seven degrees C at the moment.

[f1tomi8]

Alonso Ferrari F14 T 1:26.321 12 lap

[anialonso]

Alonso brings that seven-lap stint to a close. He lowered the benchmark several times, eventually getting down to a 1m26.321s

the longest stint from F14T..??

[Hornet]

Good to see Alonso got down to business pretty quick :pass

Hopefully this will be another trouble free day

[Senna4Ever]

any one know that #Aloln means in @InsideFerrari?

[jgdswaran]

09:06 Alonso brings that seven-lap stint to a close. He lowered the benchmark several times, eventually getting down to a 1m26.321s.

[Senna4Ever]

A good live timining, shows whose on track. Has everything besides actual stints:
http://www.f1today.net/en/live-update

Thank you ... seems an interesting one ...

[anialonso]

does any one know how Marussia's progressing and when thy would be out..
Its vital that Ferrari get as much mileage as possible on its engine

[Ed Harley]

Interesting to see what young Magnussen can do in the McLaren compared to top times of the day.

[anialonso]

And as the Briton clocks up his 15th lap of the day, Red Bull's ongoing absence is becoming increasingly conspicuous.

:clap

[Ste]

Interestingly, Toro Rosso have done 14 laps. But they're 21s off the pace of Kimi and Hamilton.

[tifosi1993]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1430a53.jpg

[PabloAlo]

AloIn i guess, it is either that Alonso is back in or that they are "All in" i guess...

[tifosi1993]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1430a86.jpg

[Senna4Ever]

does any one know how Marussia's progressing and when thy would be out..
Its vital that Ferrari get as much mileage as possible on its engine

according to their tweets


Marussia F1 Team ‏@Marussia_F1Team 2 Std.
Greetings from Jerez everyone! It's a cool but clear morning here as we ready the all-new MR03 for its testing debut.


Marussia F1 Team ‏@Marussia_F1Team 2 Std.
The plan is to simply 'go testing' with the #MR03 and we'll let you know when we are about to do just that!


Marussia F1 Team ‏@Marussia_F1Team 2 Std.
In the meantime, let us tell you ALL about it #MR03 http://mf1te.am/9H8fih http://www.marussiaf1team.com/news/905/

[Hornet]

I wonder if Alonso set his time with those grills on :-G

[Bubbles]

I wonder if Alonso set his time with those grills on :-G

I think he did. :-)

[ManFromMilan]

Yeah, but that don't make the car fast. After reading that this car has the same rear-end problems as the previous two, I'm starting to have a bad feeling, like there's been no real progress. Sure, the wind-tunnel finally works, but how are we suppose to get poles and wins with poor traction, especially with a new engine that's giving out much more torque than the V8? The rear tires are going to be destroyed from wheel-spin.

Not good.




You don't know that and there is still no evidence that that is the case with the F14-T.



Mclaren has innovative rear suspension, while as usual there is nothing innovative about our car, its just meat and potatoes. When was the last time Ferrari innovated an effective design element?




The overall package needs to perform, not just an innovative design element that might still be illegal in the end.

Hopefully we can have another very constructive testing day so we could have as much data as possible to help steer the F14-T in the right direction for Australia.

[Senna4Ever]

I wonder if Alonso set his time with those grills on :-G

as special gimmick from Ferrari
called the Flycatcher if you're passionate fly-fisher ... idea grow back in the days when Ross was here ... ;-)

[Bubbles]

You don't know that and there is still no evidence that that is the case with the F14-T.







The overall package needs to perform, not just an innovative design element that might still be illegal in the end.

Hopefully we can have another very constructive testing day so we could have as much data as possible to help steer the F14-T in the right direction for Australia.

I don't know, I'm starting to think the F14-T is the just F138 with a turbo engine and a low nose. That car could have won the WDC, but those tires made it impossible.

BTW, are the 2014 tires like the initial '13 models or more like the '12? Because if it's the latter, congrats RBR.

[S1000RR]

Alonso seems to be pretty comfortable in the new car with these laptimes already after 2 hours of driving :)

[anialonso]

JONATHAN NOBLE has just been catching up with Marussia's Max Chilton, who says the team is still working on the car and hoping to get out today.

:pray get out early and do some mileage

[SinanOzerS]

Red Flag.Alonso is stopped on the circuit.

[anialonso]

10:27 The F14 T is parked out on circuit, and Alonso is quickly out and walking.

10:26 Red flag, and it's for a Ferrari...

:-(

[Forzi]

Red flag as Alonso comes to a stop in the Ferrari. The press room monitors show him out of the car.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOJEMACYAAuAwT.jpg

[slak]

Horner denied that Red Bull is already pushing for the Jerez test to be extended into Saturday, but there are also rumours Renault is paving the road for a delay of the FIA's 'power unit' homologation deadline.

[Hornet]

Dammit :-(

[SinanOzerS]

Hope that's not an engine problem or so.

[slak]

Red flag as Alonso comes to a stop in the Ferrari. The press room monitors show him out of the car.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOJEMACYAAuAwT.jpg

:-s What happened?

[Avanzamento]

I don't know, I'm starting to think the F14-T is the just F138 with a turbo engine and a low nose. That car could have won the WDC, but those tires made it impossible.

BTW, are the 2014 tires like the initial '13 models or more like the '12? Because if it's the latter, congrats RBR.


I am really struggling to understand what forces you to think that... Today is just the third day of FIRST test and I believe that nobody is working on performance right now. Ferrari has started this test in a very positive way and James Allison also confirmed that data parameters matched their expectations in both cooling and aerodynamics departments. This sounds like a brilliant news for Ferrari.

Furthermore, I think that the comments from Gary Anderson should be taken with a big pinch of salt. It seems that it is very difficult to hear something positive about what Ferrari does from this man.

The best way to support Ferrari is to have more faith in their work. Forza Ferrari! :ferrarifl

[medeni73]

nothing's on fire and there's no smoke, thats good for starters :)

[ManFromMilan]

Red flag as Alonso comes to a stop in the Ferrari. The press room monitors show him out of the car.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOJEMACYAAuAwT.jpg




It is his Union mandated tee-break:-D

At least the car is not burning so probably not that big a problem

[medeni73]

could be false sensor again like on first day...

[Hornet]

Horner denied that Red Bull is already pushing for the Jerez test to be extended into Saturday, but there are also rumours Renault is paving the road for a delay of the FIA's 'power unit' homologation deadline.

Can someone help explain what is this homologation process about? From what I understand, the engine was supposed to be frozen phase by phase from 2014 to 2018. Did something change? Are they freezing the entire engine design this year?

[bondilad]

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/143703.html

cheer up guys... now this gives me a lot of confidence.

[Avantifer12]

Can someone help explain what is this homologation process about? From what I understand, the engine was supposed to be frozen phase by phase from 2014 to 2018. Did something change? Are they freezing the entire engine design this year?

This is from the 2014 technical regulations page 88 is about annual engine homologation. As far as I know there has not been any change.

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/1-2014%20TECHNICAL%20REGULATIONS%202013-12-09.pdf

EDIT: For those of you here who like the technical side of Formula 1 and wants to learn I strongly recommend taking a look at the technical regulations. You don't have to be an engineer to understand most of the rules, also there is some really good drawings and appendixes that helps to explain.

[Hornet]

This is from the 2014 technical regulations page 88 is about annual engine homologation. As far as I know there has not been any change.

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/1-2014%20TECHNICAL%20REGULATIONS%202013-12-09.pdf

Thanks :thumb


Hornet. the "power unit" needs to have a protection sheet, in case of turbo explosion. The thing is that the sheet weighs almost 4kg. Renault and Mercedes says that the sheet needs to be homologated as engine weigh, so the weigh needs to be raised, they send to the FIA one video of some sparks going of the turbo. Ferrari says that we have not anykind of problems with the turbo, so we didn't need to put anything in the engine (that makes our engine lighter). Also, the Ferrari engineers says that the engine vane already has somekind of protection (renault and mercedes put that protection sheet atached to the engine).
The FIA says that our system is legal, the thing is: are they going to change the weigh regulations to mercedes and renault? (renault use to cry a lot, so they get some gifts from the FIA, decongelations, diferent map regulations for them, etc)

Thanks. I was under the impression that the homologation process is later. Apparently not

[SinanOzerS]

Hahahaha Red Bull :lol

[Forzi]

A smoking RBR on the track.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOQulmCcAEBZnc.jpg

[PabloAlo]

Bad news for Renault engines....

[Hornet]

A smoking RBR on the track.

Now I don't feel so bad anymore. Thanks RB :-G

[Schumyboy83]

11:01 A smoking RB10 is parked out on track. Ricciardo makes a quick exit, and then inspects the rear of his car. :rotfl

[ManFromMilan]

Red Bull is smoking...

[Stebandelareina]

Renault going to cry to the FIA in 3,2,1...

[Forzi]

Kind of feel sorry for the Renault teams...







Except RedBull of course :-)

[RedPassion]

A smoking RBR on the track.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOQulmCcAEBZnc.jpg
Well maybe is Gary Anderson just so right about this car as he was about the championship winning MP4-28.

[RedPassion]

Renault going to cry to the FIA in 3,2,1...
:rotfl : They will complain that the battery is so dangerous under the tank(even if they are the only one having problems with that,maybe too dumb) e for safety reasons they will be allowed to build the car how they desire,nothing new from RB!

[Dino]

Kind of feel sorry for the Renault teams...

Yeah,really sorry especially for Toro Rosso for changing from Ferrari engines!:wave





Except RedBull of course :-)

[Avantifer12]

Twitter: Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1
"This year when we see Vettel waving his finger it might refer to the number of laps his car has completed" :lol

[gazoz]

Twitter: Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1
"This year when we see Vettel waving his finger it might refer to the number of laps his car has completed" :lol

or maybe to point out he used to be No1

[PabloAlo]

:rotfl:clap:rotfl
Twitter: Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1
"This year when we see Vettel waving his finger it might refer to the number of laps his car has completed" :lol

[RedPassion]

Twitter: Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1
"This year when we see Vettel waving his finger it might refer to the number of laps his car has completed" :lol
Even the English press is bashing on them,GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!:tongue

[anialonso]

Renault going to cry to the FIA in 3,2,1...

its not an issue with the Renault engine it seems,cause the STR were able to do 17 laps without any issue.
The problem seems to be with cooling of the RB..

[anialonso]

hey guys any news on why our car stopped earlier..??

[Kingdom Hearts]

Any news about the problem in our car?.

[RedPassion]

its not an issue with the Renault engine it seems,cause the STR were able to do 17 laps without any issue.
The problem seems to be with cooling of the RB..
Wait a minute Gary Anderson says the car is the most interesting design of all,maybe he meant interesting as the Jordan 196 or the MP4-28,yeah,interestingly wrong!Everyone knew this year cooling would be critical and it looks like they get it completely wrong,Gary give a :wavebreak!

[anuragiyer8989]

hey guys any news on why our car stopped earlier..??

Ya, can someone post our cars status now and if Fernando will be resuming his run?

[radosav]

Don't cheer over somebody else bad luck in testing!
Wait till the season begins, than we can cheer!

[RedPassion]

You are right, i am just tired of the most of the English press always bashing on us just beacause we are Ferrari and often writing nonsense about the others just because their are british!

[Ste]

its not an issue with the Renault engine it seems,cause the STR were able to do 17 laps without any issue.
The problem seems to be with cooling of the RB..

Without issue? They're 23s off the pace.

The car shouldn't overheat like that after five corners...

[anialonso]

Dont know if reliable or not..


Team lost telemetry and asked Fernando to stop the car.

[medeni73]

Do we have a word of why Ferrari stopped earlier on?

[Sab_g]

A smoking RBR on the track.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOQulmCcAEBZnc.jpg

Is it just me, or does the front suspension look broken?

[Stebandelareina]

For what I read, the box suddenly all telemetry of the car, soy the ask Fernando to Stop it.

[tifosi1993]

Do we have a word of why Ferrari stopped earlier on?

Telemetry issue....Again!

[mirafiori]

You are right, i am just tired of the most of the English press always bashing on us just beacause we are Ferrari and often writing nonsense about the others just because their are british!

You are bang on my friend the British press hates us. :thumb

[Stebandelareina]

its not an issue with the Renault engine it seems,cause the STR were able to do 17 laps without any issue.
The problem seems to be with cooling of the RB..

Anialonso, Renault has some problems cooling the car. Yesterday RB cut the body of the car to manage the high temperatures (use to be one of the problems of Newey's cars).
Maybe is just bad luck, but this morning the Caterham stoped 2 times.
Without a doubt, I'm glad that we aren't in their position.

Renault started to cry about the engines few months ago, obviously, they have some problems with the developing. Or maybe they try to go to the limit in some point and if they manage to solve it (or the FIA let him do whatever they want, they will have the best engine).

RB only make 8 laps this days, that's not a good sign for him.

[RedPassion]

Without issue? They're 23s off the pace.

The car shouldn't overheat like that after five corners...
I hope for them i am wrong but to me it looks like they went completely awry with the coolings,and this years cooling is very important

[piglett]

Is it just me, or does the front suspension look broken?

Looks that way, yes!

Any of you guys knows the turbo unit supplier? Or how much boost do they run?

[Sempre_Ferrari]

Is it just me, or does the front suspension look broken?

It does look broken doesn't it...most likely just camber setting, from past seasons it seems that RB likes the wheels with high camber, could be wrong tho

[anialonso]

Alonso takes the Ferrari back out
:clap

[Cemz85]

Don't forget, if you have cooling issues at Jerez, wait till Bahrain..

[Stebandelareina]

Is very normal has that problems in pre-season testing. All years happends. The electrical and electronic components use to fail in brand new cars. That's why there is a shakedown and instalation laps.

If it is the telemetry is not a big problem in comparation with engine/transmision problems.

[anialonso]

Alonso improves to 1m25.508s to go second

[RedPassion]

Anialonso, Renault has some problems cooling the car. Yesterday RB cut the body of the car to manage the high temperatures (use to be one of the problems of Newey's cars).
Maybe is just bad luck, but this morning the Caterham stoped 2 times.
Without a doubt, I'm glad that we aren't in their position.
Renault started to cry about the engines few months ago, obviously, they have some problems with the developing. Or maybe they try to go to the limit in some point and if they manage to solve it (or the FIA let him do whatever they want, they will have the best engine).

RB only make 8 laps this days, that's not a good sign for him.
It is the same disgusting stuff every year,why do the FIA allows this,if they are not able to compete HONESTLY with Ferrari and Mercedes they should quit and stop bringin F1 in demise,i am sure nobody will miss them apart from Bernie$$$$$.

[Stebandelareina]

Alonso back on track.

[Sab_g]

While I want to beat red bull, don't know if I want all Renault teams to suffer

[anialonso]

He then improves to 1m25.495s. That's still around 0.7s slower than Raikkonen managed yesterday.

So it seems nothing wrong with the engine then..
Hope Ferrari can nail a long stint of atleast 20 Laps

[Senna4Ever]

Alonso attracts big crowds
Fernando Alonso is very popular in Spain, which results in a large crowd today. It is a shame for the Spanish fans that their favourite has not been driving since he stopped on track.

I must say all the problems of RB just trying to draw a big smile into my face
But old saying says: those who laugh last laugh best

So meanwhile the season ain't over I can only give my kudos to our engine guys ...

[vcs316]

11:43 Alonso is running on the medium tyre, which Button used to get into the 1m24s on day two.

11:42 Massa is in, so it's now just the Ferrari on track.

11:42 He then improves to 1m25.495s. That's still around 0.7s slower than Raikkonen managed yesterday.

11:39 And Alonso improves to 1m25.508s to go second.

[Jas]

I posted an article I think on page 28 last night where Renault hinted that the issue with red bull was not primarily their fault but the way red bull had packaged!!!

[RedPassion]

You are bang on my friend the British press hates us. :thumb
They always were.

[Ste]

For whoever said the Toro Rosso was fine...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaovFFkNLQ

[gazoz]

that sounds terrible oh dear
For whoever said the Toro Rosso was fine...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaovFFkNLQ

[Ste]

Apparently Ricciardo is back out on track.

[anialonso]

For whoever said the Toro Rosso was fine...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaovFFkNLQ

OOPssss

[RedPassion]

For whoever said the Toro Rosso was fine...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaovFFkNLQ
It seems like the engine want to jump out of the car and run away.:lou
And it took them 2 years to build THIS!!!!!!WOW!!!!

[Lucky Dodo]

I am moderately hopeful for Ferrari car development, it seems to be going as planned.

[gazoz]

at least the Ferrari sounds fantastic all others not near our sound

[ManFromMilan]

For whoever said the Toro Rosso was fine...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaovFFkNLQ




Maybe they have a V5 and the extra cylinder acts as a cowbell or some other percussion instrument?

[Lucky Dodo]

:lol

[gazoz]

:rotfl

[ManFromMilan]

at least the Ferrari sounds fantastic all others not near our sound




I fully agree. Our engine sounds great and is in no way anything less than F1 worthy

:ferrarifl

[Jas]

The vid of the sound track could be to do with this

Annoying!" Red Bull's Helmut Marko told Bild newspaper.

"The problem is in the communication between the two KERS systems," he explained. "So, like in a computer if the hardware and software are not working with each other."

KEY: I don't know if anyone watched sky notebook yesterday but the KERS and the ERS work together at the same time...with the statement above and the noise...they are not working together haha

[Ste]

Ricciardo brings the Red Bull back in. That's three laps he's managed, though one of those he didn't really finish under his own steam!

[Ste]

A rancid smelling Red Bull has passed me in the pits. Acrid-like whiff and blue smoke coming from the rear.

:lol

[Jas]

The vid of the sound track could be to do with this

Annoying!" Red Bull's Helmut Marko told Bild newspaper.

"The problem is in the communication between the two KERS systems," he explained. "So, like in a computer if the hardware and software are not working with each other."

KEY: I don't know if anyone watched sky notebook yesterday but the KERS and the ERS work together at the same time...with the statement above and the noise...they are not working together haha

[gazoz]

where did you hear that ? about the RB smoke

[Ferrari312]

It's the Renault Teapot all over again! :lol

[giodap]

:lol

anybody else getting really upset about redbull today?:-(:-(:-(

[Ste]

Felipe Massa has said in Italian media he thinks @alo_oficial will be in front of Kimi Raikkonen in the Ferrari


Lunch break for half the team and for Alo. Other half preparing the car for the afternoon. #AloIn #FerrariSamurai

[RedPassion]

The vid of the sound track could be to do with this

Annoying!" Red Bull's Helmut Marko told Bild newspaper.

"The problem is in the communication between the two KERS systems," he explained. "So, like in a computer if the hardware and software are not working with each other."

KEY: I don't know if anyone watched sky notebook yesterday but the KERS and the ERS work together at the same time...with the statement above and the noise...they are not working together haha
:redcard

[Ste]

Ooooooh, their car is on fiiirrrreee...

http://i60.tinypic.com/121fuwn.jpg

[gazoz]

anybody else getting really upset about redbull today?:-(:-(:-(

its good to see and lets see what they do about it, all teams face problems

[gazoz]

A cigarette brand logo would fit well on there car :Hmm

[RedPassion]

I think Marko is not saying the whole truth,either are they are trying some wild engine mapping,or is their cooling bankrupt,or maybe all together.

[ManFromMilan]

By the looks of the RBR they have successfully made an oven. Too bad nobody seems to be able to cook in the RBR garage.

[Ed Harley]

I hope Renault gets the problems sorted - whatever they are - as I do not see season starting with just 7 teams.

[RedPassion]

Ooooooh, their car is on fiiirrrreee...

http://i60.tinypic.com/121fuwn.jpg

These are clearly undecooling problems,thats why they are already crying,the cooling system is misdimensioned.

[Jas]

Renault have hinted that red bull has insufficient cooling!

[Ed Harley]

That is quite easy to deal with and in fairly short period of time.

[Jas]

I hope Renault gets the problems sorted - whatever they are - as I do not see season starting with just 7 teams.

Hell no, we all know how good red bull is, we need all the head start we can get! Trust me, come Australia they will have this car working!

[Ed Harley]

Basically any team "can afford" to have some problems at the start of the season or later - don't forget the double points at the end.

[RedPassion]

Renault have hinted that red bull has insufficient cooling!

And lo and behold nothing to do with unsafe batteries,the car is wrong and they want the Fia to allows them to do whatever they want ,just disgusting guys!!!

[Ste]

Renault have hinted that red bull has insufficient cooling!
We shouldn't really laugh at them. Might come back to bite us.


































































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:rotfl

[Jacquesvw]

That is quite easy to deal with and in fairly short period of time.

What? The rumoured cooling problems? How do you know it's easy to deal with when most of the teams said one of the digest challenges was the cooling systems.

[Schumiklub]

I imagine if they increase the sidepods to fit bigger radiators then the whole areo of the car would be thrown off.

[slak]

Red Bull's Backup Car

5702:rotfl

[Ste]

"oops"

http://i61.tinypic.com/jifllt.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2zjdnkp.jpg

[Alessandra]

............. we need all the head start we can get! Trust me, come Australia they will have this car working!

I'm sure you're right, but in the meantime, it's fun to see them suffering:-D Ha!!

[Forzi]

Renault have hinted that red bull has insufficient cooling!

Rather obvious. Compare RBR with Toro Rosso, who actually got additional cooling inlet just over the drivers helmet, not to mention the bigger sidepod inlets.

[Senna4Ever]

Regarding Posting from @Ste (http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/showthread.php/31917-Jerez-Testing-%28finally%29?p=823990#post823990)

First picture: hmmm there was a note on my desk not to forget about. Wonder what it was ... damn what was it ....

Second picture: FingerBoy asking: Adrian what about the cooling, Adrian: Gosh that was the note ... don't forget about enough for cooling ...

[FerrariFanBoii]

Does anyone have any pictures of Massa in his Williams?

[fratelliferrari]

Does anyone have any pictures of Massa in his Williams?

There are some photos on Felipe's Twitter account :-D

[Forzi]

Does anyone have any pictures of Massa in his Williams?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOU8oaIEAEmXZJ.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOTni1IAAAO-dD.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfOT4VlIIAACHcg.jpg:large
http://distilleryimage0.ak.instagram.com/aebda41c899611e3a10e12a33c4cbee0_8.jpg

[Senna4Ever]

Does anyone have any pictures of Massa in his Williams?

From Williams Twitter 1 (https://twitter.com/WilliamsF1Team/status/428800250531549184/photo/1)
From Williams Twitter 2 (https://twitter.com/WilliamsF1Team/status/428848697242583040/photo/1)

[FerrariFanBoii]

Thank you! :)

[Rishu]

RB is reminding me of how we started winter testing with F2012

[hrc5555]

"oops"

http://i61.tinypic.com/jifllt.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2zjdnkp.jpg


Why is Vettel so wet!? Is it the engine heat what makes him sweat so much!? :lol :rotfl

Joke aside, is it really possible that Rb is having cooling issues at this temperature? If that is true, they will have to get double size radiators for races with temperatures over 30 degrees...

[Hornet]

I imagine if they increase the sidepods to fit bigger radiators then the whole areo of the car would be thrown off.

Exactly. The entire car's aero needs to work together, from the front to the rear, everything helps dictates how the air flows. If you change the sidepod, you need to change other parts as well as the sidepod plays a major role in how the air flows.

Another important thing is as Ferrari and other teams begin to do aero testing, Red Bull has yet to do anything, so this will be another disadvantage to them, even if they can solve their reliability issue eventually.

Can't feel sorry for them though. They are our competitors.:-D

[hrc5555]

RB is reminding me of how we started winter testing with F2012

Only difference is that we had little reliability issues and lots of laps...

[ferrari1.8t]

AUTOSPORT's F1 technical expert Gary Anderson looks at the problems the world champion squad is having.

The reason for the stoppage hasn't yet emerged, but this is worrying for Red Bull given that the new RB10 has managed a grand total of 11 complete laps in two-and-a-half days.

The technical rumour mill in the paddock suggests that Renault is less than pleased with Red Bull's installation of the control electronics in its 2014 car.

[SilverSpeed]

Software systems on RB aren't working with eachother and it's 10°C out there and allready they are overheating so...























I LIKE!!!

[Jas]

ohh god, all this mocking of red bull...I have a strange feeling that its gunna come back and bite us, look how they bolt on parts when it came to the over sea stretch in the season...where talking atleast half a second updates in the past few years! lets stay humble people!

Also that Williams looks bare, even if they do get a title/major sponser such as martini!

[Jas]

also last season pre season testing where they didn't introduce the ramp exhaust until the very last day! Anybody have lap count for today?!