Jerez Testing (finally)

[Jas]

Jerez testing thread....Kimi will be driving for the first two days with Alonso taking the helm of the F14T in the last two days. I believe their is no live coverage however Sky will be doing something at 9am and also at 9pm with Teds Notebook (probs some poor analysis work). Finally, lets all try to keep calm whatever and not the doom and gloom of last year...however hard haha! Pirelli have announced the following:

Pirelli have confirmed the Jerez circuit will be artificially watered on Friday in order to allow for wet running.

This week the teams will take to the Spanish circuit for the first of the three pre-season tests.

The four days of action kick off on Tuesday in what is expected to be chilly conditions.

And although there is a possibility of rain during the week, should it not come before Friday the track will be artificially watered on the final day.

"The new regulations stipulate that one of the pre-season test days will be dedicated to wet weather testing of our new Cinturato intermediate and wet tyres," said Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery.

"This is scheduled for the final day at Jerez, in order to give the teams experience of a wide range of conditions as soon as possible as they refine their 2014 cars."

Pirelli announced they had also brought with them a special one-off 'winter' tyre to Jerez to compensate for the low temperatures.

Pirelli stated: "This is a hard compound that has been optimised to work well even in low temperatures, reducing the risk of graining (which is a common characteristic of cold weather running)."

[gvera]

Autosport Live will cover the tests.

[Jas]

Autosport Live will cover the tests.

I guess you mean timing not actual images?

[Hornet]

I guess you mean timing not actual images?

In previous years, they include some pictures of the cars every now and then in their live commentary. But of course there are other site that focus on posting pictures and they are better site to view pictures of all the cars. I forgot what is the name of the site, hopefully someone knows the link.

[stefa]

I guess you mean timing not actual images?

That'll do for me :-)

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

Absolutely cannot wait. I'll be at work tomorrow, wish i could be there at Jerez.

[giodap]

marussia have delayed first test. hope that doesnt effect ferrari's engine development, reliability etc

[fratelliferrari]

Really can't wait to get underway again!

[AvantiFern]

I hope we can find good pace, good rear grip, and a reliable chassis in Jerez this week. If we are able carry over one trait from the F138 I pray its the reliability of the Type 056 V8, and the F138 as a whole. I think teams will come to terms with the new formula in good time but I could see overall durability being a big factor for many teams as the season gets underway in Melbourne and Sepang, hopefully those teams are Renault and Merc powered. Go Red Cars!!

[Ed Harley]

I don't expect to see many laps on the first day as they need to do all kinds of installation laps and checks etc. I'm going to be positively surprised if there are no engine explosions this week for any team.

[voiko]

how long until it starts?

[Fer12]

I believe it starts at 09:00 local time..

[Rishu]

So, what's the driver line-up for today?

[Ed Harley]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112295

[fronaldo]

Any live timing guys like last year?

[diesel08]

http://live.autosport.com/

[voiko]

Autosport has 8am local time which is in 4 mins!!!

[Senna4Ever]

Autosport has 8am local time which is in 4 mins!!!

GMT
which would then in an half hour
i.e. Vienna/Graz = GMT +1

so 30 Min Left ...

[Forzi]

And the first goes out
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDUPoHCEAE5fsh.jpg

[diego_alunan]

its midnight here in the US and im so excited about this test day.. the new season is here... hope to hear a lot of news

[tifosi1993]

Good luck F14-T!

[diego_alunan]

man i wish they have live videos of the testings ... ferrari and merc are the best looking car i must say. hope we're faster than the mercs

[tifosi1993]

http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=31409

[Domo-kun]

Anyone found any site with live timing? Like f1tests.info was last year. It was great to just check the times especially with those more important long runs. :)

[diego_alunan]

thanks for the link ^ just need to find a translator for it :)

[anakin]

no tv coverage???

[Forzi]

no tv coverage???

Nope. Never had for Jerez.

[Forzi]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDXW7VIIAAarfG.jpg:large

[bluesilhouettes]

There's no live timing on http://f1tests.info/ as usually. :-??

[medeni73]

EDD STRAW, our scout in the pitlane this morning, reports that the Mercedes fired up again and rolled halfway out of the garage, only for its engine to stop. The W05 was promptly wheeled back in and hidden behind screens.


here we go :)))

[diego_alunan]

reports say that mercedes tried to fire up engine once again rolled out of the garage .. engine died so they had to wheel lewis back to the garage

[Kyss4k]

There's no live timing on http://f1tests.info/ as usually. :-??

I can't find one here either: http://www.msfree.gr

[medeni73]

http://directo.caranddriverthef1.com/

[Forzi]

http://directo.caranddriverthef1.com/

Nice find!

[Ste]

Why has Kimi got two different helmet designs?

http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsteso.jpg

[diego_alunan]

ok lads its almost 1230am my time im going to bed goodnight

forza ferrari

[tifosi1993]

http://imageshack.com/a/img826/7209/xn86.png

[Kyss4k]

A Ferrari road car just drove past (on the service road) and all the media rushed to the window. Thought it's V8 sounded too good

[medeni73]

Lee McKenzie: "There are rumours one of the top teams will also not run today, and I hear another may not have been able to start and engine when they tried this morning."

[bluesilhouettes]

5682

New RedBull looks good.

[Bubbles]

5682

New RedBull looks good.

The sidepods' exits are joined at the back? Not a bad solution, Ferrari should look into that - it might be easy to implement.

[Forzi]

There's a distinctive rumble from directly beneath us in the media centre, which means one thing - Ferrari has fired up its F14 T.

[tifosi1993]

08:38 There's a distinctive rumble from directly beneath us in the media centre, which means one thing - Ferrari has fired up its F14 T.

via Austosport

[Kyss4k]

Kimi is out on track!

[Ste]

There's a distinctive rumble from directly beneath us in the media centre, which means one thing - Ferrari has fired up its F14 T.

Kimi is out on track

[Forzi]

Kimi goes out :-)

[Rishu]

08:39 And out heads Kimi Raikkonen for the Scuderia, which is sporting a massive pitot sensor on the top roll hoop

[Forzi]

Get ready for some pics :-P

[Suzie]

thejudge13 @thejudge13
The @InsideFerrari manages 5 corners and then stopped. Gonna be a fun year for #F1

[Ste]

Ugh.

[Rishu]

Bad start then

[slak]

http://grandprix247.com/live-timing-2/

[Ste]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2w5kdhf.jpg

[Kyss4k]

Oh well... that was quick :-??

[medeni73]

its Hamilton !

[Rishu]

its Hamilton !

Ok :-D

[Rosso Corsa]

thejudge13 @thejudge13
The @InsideFerrari manages 5 corners and then stopped. Gonna be a fun year for #F1

Time to stop developing this years car and start on 2015 :-D You know I'm joking. Just couldn't resist ;-)

[bluesilhouettes]

Seem like we did no better than Renault for exhaust system, RB have slim and smooth sidepod agian. Things change.
Will reliability help us win this season ?? :-E

[medeni73]

its Kimi after all :( different sites reported different driver I'm sorry

[Ste]

No, it's definitely Kimi. http://i40.tinypic.com/2vwvgh5.jpg

[Schumyboy83]

08:47 We have our first red of the day.

Raikkonen has stopped entering onto the back straight.

[Rishu]

Autosport commentary says it's Kimi who has stopped

08:47 We have our first red of the day.

Raikkonen has stopped entering onto the back straight.

[medeni73]

FerrariInside: Precautionary stop by engineers, now checking. Car on its way back to the pits...

[Greig]

Kimi the car breaker.....

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDdMsYCcAAZQd9.jpg

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDfMORIAAA8fMt.jpg

[Senna4Ever]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDfMORIAAA8fMt.jpg

So far the most reliable car with "Ferrari" man inside ...

[medeni73]

I hope this precautionary stoppage has nothing to do with overheating...other things are easier to repair...

[tifosi1993]

@piusgasso (https://twitter.com/piusgasso) : Según dicen, el Ferrari es más ruidoso que el Mercedes…

"As they say, the Ferrari is noisier than the Mercedes ..."

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDe1f6CEAEPVfQ.jpg:large

[tifosi1993]

http://imageshack.com/a/img89/8313/d0dl.jpg

[Domo-kun]

Well .. at least Ferrari managed to attach the engine to the car.

Unlike Caterham:
08:31 Caterham was due to unveil its 2014 challenger at 0845 this morning, but was delayed by a small glitch that AUTOSPORT understands is related to the installation of the engine.

[Hornet]

Let's hope it's nothing serious :pray

Waiting for some youtube video to hear the sounds

[Senna4Ever]

Well .. at least Ferrari managed to attach the engine to the car.

Unlike Caterham:
08:31 Caterham was due to unveil its 2014 challenger at 0845 this morning, but was delayed by a small glitch that AUTOSPORT understands is related to the installation of the engine.

the advantage when engine and chassis comes from the same house ... ;)

[bluesilhouettes]

Well .. at least Ferrari managed to attach the engine to the car.

Unlike Caterham:
08:31 Caterham was due to unveil its 2014 challenger at 0845 this morning, but was delayed by a small glitch that AUTOSPORT understands is related to the installation of the engine.

Marussia - Ferrari customer also.

[tifosi1993]

http://youtu.be/wEqw0Z4gVnw

[Hornet]

the advantage when engine and chassis comes from the same house ... ;)

Wonder if that advantage is showing already. So far Merc and Ferrari are the only ones that have gone out.

[tifosi1993]

http://youtu.be/M8o9JlP1BFg

[Forzi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHCCznxOOgA

[Forzi]

Here it is!
http://web.stagram.com/p/643246085212736977_9849354

[medeni73]

FerrariInside
No one attempted pit exit, only #Ferrari and Merc. New systems check long and complex process, #verycalmTeam nonetheless

[Senna4Ever]

FerrariInside
... #verycalmTeam nonetheless

Mr. "Need to stay calm" Stefano twittering?

after the decades of dominating we are in the are of 'Calming' ... nearly in every 3rd sentence you hear it ...

[Forzi]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfDrBxRCEAAwSsQ.jpg:large

[Rishu]

I must admit, I like the way new engines sound. Hopefully Ferrari ones are reliable enough.

[Stormsearcher]

The engines do sound good. A lot of bass. But its missing the familiar shriek of the original F1 engines. :-)

[Rishu]

STR out on track, Renault have one of theirs out now.

[medeni73]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxXcIeyGHgQ&feature=player_embedded

[Haroski]

Might be a stupid question, but what is that Machete attached on top of the F14T?

[Stormsearcher]

The F-14T sounds a lot better than the Merc. Its got a nice angry sound to the engine.

[medeni73]

it seems that we won engine-sound competition :) everyone are impressed with our sound...

[voiko]

Might be a stupid question, but what is that Machete attached on top of the F14T?

Sensors mate. We se them in every test.. I think they also help check the calibration to the wind tunnel

[Rishu]

Force India out on track with Perez

Edit: He stopped, Red Flags

[bluesilhouettes]

Red flag:

Ferrari 1
Renault 0
Mercedes 1
:lol

[medeni73]

so its a tie at the moment: Merc stopped once on a way out of garage, we stoppen on track and now Renault too :)
my bad its 2 for Mercs 0 for Renault :)

[Hornet]

Might be a stupid question, but what is that Machete attached on top of the F14T?

If I'm not mistaken, it's a pitot tube to measure air speed. It's placed high up to avoid the turbulent wake generated by the car

[Senna4Ever]

also help check the calibration to the wind tunnel

:haha:
that's why the car got stopped ... after only a short distance it was clear: 100% correlation issue again between wind tunnel and reality ...

[Ed Harley]

Hopefully F14-T will complete a lap today.

[karvyin12]

No Pessimism Please:thumb

[Rishu]

Gary Anderson says it's normal for the first day with new regulations, Engines, Systems, Wires, Fluids takes time to understand & get them working simultaneously

[Hornet]

Gary Anderson says it's normal for the first day with new regulations, Engines, Systems, Wires, Fluids takes time to understand & get them working simultaneously
Always better to break now than in the race
;-)

[medeni73]

not a word from RB or McLaren, I have a feeling some of them might be in problems...

[FerrariFanBoii]

They car looks and sounds great on the track :)

[S1000RR]

Saw some speculations that RB10 will not drive today.. :)

[Haroski]

Sensors mate. We se them in every test.. I think they also help check the calibration to the wind tunnel


If I'm not mistaken, it's a pitot tube to measure air speed. It's placed high up to avoid the turbulent wake generated by the car

Thank you both, first time watching pre-season testing (or testing at all) and that tube looked ridiculously big to be a sensor :D But you made it quite clear.
I'm sure Ferrari will get everything working this week, but sad if Kimi's testing days are mainly used eating ice-cream.

[Ste]

Adrian Newey: "We discovered a silly setup problem over night."

[Forzi]

not a word from RB or McLaren, I have a feeling some of them might be in problems...

RBR "silly setup problem", and McLaren just arrived here.

[Rishu]

10:20 Hamilton's first flyer - and the first of the day - is a 1m33.305s

[jgdswaran]

10:29 Take two for Raikkonen and Ferrari - the Finn is back out in the F14 T, almost two hours after his first, failed attempt.

[Hornet]

Good to see we're running again

[Ste]

Kimi has now done two Installation laps - Out/In.

[jgdswaran]

10:32 As a comparison to Hamilton's time, the fastest lap on day one of this test last year was a 1m18.861s. The first flyer of the first day, meanwhile, was a 1m35.607s, set by Felipe Massa for Ferrari.

[jgdswaran]

5683

[jgdswaran]

10:37 After our first two and a half hours of running, the order is:

1 Hamilton, Mercedes: 1m33.305s, 7 laps
2 Vergne, Toro Rosso: no time, 3 laps
3 Raikkonen, Ferrari: no time, 2 laps
4 Perez, Force India: no time, 1 lap
5 Gutierrez, Sauber: no time, 1 lap

[Sab_g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOGQ7zZIrvQ
First engine sound!

[medeni73]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfD4kIdCYAAfto7.jpg

[Ste]

Christian Horner said that RBR only began its FIA crash test programme 10 days ago - a lot later than most rivals

[Ste]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfD4kIdCYAAfto7.jpg
Again, I ask why has Kimi got two different helmet designs?

[Cemz85]

Guys, any news on engine noises? I heard the Ferrari has the best sound, I didn't hear a Renault yet of torro rosso

[Sab_g]

Guys, any news on engine noises? I heard the Ferrari has the best sound, I didn't hear a Renault yet of torro rosso

I posted link to youtube clip a few posts above

[Rishu]

Again, I ask why has Kimi got two different helmet designs?

I think some drivers like to try different colors in testing. I recall even Alonso used all Red in 2010 testing I guess

[Senna4Ever]

According to tweet of Andrew Benson: "A senior figure from a rival team told me last week that he'd heared RB may not do much day 1 running in Jerez ...."

[Ste]

Car numbers - it seems some haven't even bothered to make them visible!

http://i40.tinypic.com/21nr0cp.png

http://i39.tinypic.com/302m4ah.png

http://i41.tinypic.com/2zssih4.png

[Ste]

From Adam Cooper:

Adrian Newey confirmed that RBR has various nose options. They call the launch one the keel nose.

[Senna4Ever]

Interesting tweet from Andrew Benson again: 'These chassis rules haven been three years in the making. Why are people (Red Bull) apparently only raising alleged "submarining" issue now?'
'Ok, submarining - one car going under another if it hits it from behind'

[Ste]

2014 Tyres

http://i43.tinypic.com/2h2p16g.png

[Hornet]

Interesting tweet from Andrew Benson again: 'These chassis rules haven been three years in the making. Why are people (Red Bull) apparently only raising alleged "submarining" issue now?'
'Ok, submarining - one car going under another if it hits it from behind'

Are they referring to Ferrari's low nose?

[Kristof_F40]

Are they referring to Ferrari's low nose?

probably, but isn't it designed to snap off?

[Forzi]

HD it mates :-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmnFrJt05F0

[Ste]

Looks like Mercedes are blowing the centre of the diffuser:

http://i41.tinypic.com/11kjak3.png

[Forzi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iMyIV1OiUk

[Ste]

Lewis Hamilton is having MANY problems navigating the W05. Now you have two faults in a row braking for the chicane.

[Hornet]

probably, but isn't it designed to snap off?

That's what I'd imagine would happen, the nose is a crash structure. But I guess they would have to conduct a test to see what really happens :Hmm

I still can't help but feel that Red Bull "concern" has more reasons than just safety

[Ste]

HD it mates :-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmnFrJt05F0
YOU'RE A MONSTER!!!

Thanks!! Sounds pretty nice, can't wait to hear it at full-speed.

[Ste]

Good news people:


First leaks from the paddock of Jerez : the FIA has approved both the muzzle of a walrus Lotus (not shown here) and discussed the turbo Ferrari . In the case of the E22 still under construction seems to have been sufficiently appropriately extend the right edge of 5 cm so that it could be considered a legal solution, because the rules allow only one end front.

For Ferrari instead there has been a request for clarification from the part of the Mercedes, since the turbocharger lacks the external protection in theory required to protect against splinters in case of breakage. The team at Maranello , however, has stated that their turbocharger is manufactured by an outside supplier with certain specifications, the FIA considered sufficient.

[Cemz85]

You can hear the electronic stuff when kimi goes of throttle. Sounds sweet

[Ed Harley]

Raspy sound - I like it.

[zike]

I dont like this, only 2 laps while Merc has 11

[Ste]

I dont like this, only 2 laps while Merc has 11
And zero for the current champions, zero for McLaren.....

[Cemz85]

Guys, just an update for me, who has the smaller side pods? Ferrari / sauber or the mercs?

[Forzi]

Good news people:

:clap

[Kristof_F40]

That's what I'd imagine would happen, the nose is a crash structure. But I guess they would have to conduct a test to see what really happens :Hmm

I still can't help but feel that Red Bull "concern" has more reasons than just safety

Ofcourse it is, they are dirty.. always been so.. last year, they were crying to change tyres, from the beginning, because there car could go faster with other tyres.. in the beginning there were no issues concerning safety, but they were crying.. Now they say tyres weren't safe because they blew up in Silverstone, which, from what I can recall, was because of an issue with something on the track.. Now they are just trying to weaken the others.. Always the same story.. what has RBR done for the better of the sport?

[Ed Harley]

I dont like this, only 2 laps while Merc has 11
Team has a testing program and they will follow said program unless problems etc. cause delays. Now is not the time to do things hastily.

[Kyss4k]

Jesus that engine note is mean! :thumb

[Greig]

I dont like this, only 2 laps while Merc has 11

We are 3 hours in, I really doubt the title is going to be won or lost cause we never done 11 laps like Merc :-)

[OSS EL BOSS]

Hamilton is already pushing his car.
Now I understand why they were so confident for this season, they seem to have a develpement advantage.

[RedPassion]

Ofcourse it is, they are dirty.. always been so.. last year, they were crying to change tyres, from the beginning, because there car could go faster with other tyres.. in the beginning there were no issues concerning safety, but they were crying.. Now they say tyres weren't safe because they blew up in Silverstone, which, from what I can recall, was because of an issue with something on the track.. Now they are just trying to weaken the others.. Always the same story.. what has RBR done for the better of the sport?
They are truly disgusting :-!,playng words with safety and doing a mockery of all f1 drivers that died because of the lack of it,they should be ashamed of themselves and maybe start working seriously,what bloody idiots they are!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Forzi]

Mercedes had their car go round Silverstone a few days back. This ain't their first time when the car had to move, unlike ours, so don't be surprised that they are ahead on lap count.

[Kristof_F40]

We can say what we want, but the Merc engine is doing a solid job so far..

[hrc5555]

Mercedes had their car go round Silverstone a few days back. This ain't their first time when the car had to move, unlike ours so don't be surprised that they are ahead on lap count.

Yes, they did 40km on Silversone track! I wonder if they can do that here! :-)

[zike]

Hamilton is already pushing his car.
Now I understand why they were so confident for this season, they seem to have a develpement advantage.

My thought exactly

[Kyss4k]

Yes, they did 40km on Silversone track! I wonder if they can do that here! :-)

And only for 2 hours. We are over 3 hours in testing and only thing we have done is 2 laps... The least of any manufacturer.

[Super M]

And only for 2 hours. We are over 3 hours in testing and only thing we have done is 2 laps... The least of any manufacturer.


*Think you got that wrong.............Red Bull, Mclaren, Williams, and others have yet to complete a lap..........:-E

[Kyss4k]

There really isn't any of the last year's live timings? Msfree.gr for example? You could check the stints of every driver etc. I wasn't able to find anything like this, just autosport and http://directo.caranddriverthef1.com, which is useless :-??

[Kyss4k]

*Think you got that wrong.............Red Bull, Mclaren, Williams, and others have yet to complete a lap..........:-E

Engine manufacturers...

[Forzi]

http://grandprix247.com/live-timing-2/ is the best we got on lap times. Would like to see stints eventually, though.

[Sempre_Ferrari]

lol, we need to change the thread name to "Testing Gloom and Doom/Ferrari are way behind".


IMHO it's way to early to judge who is ahead in development, who's done a better job, who has the best aero etc..Teams have lots to puzzle and put together before we start seeing who is capable of what...patience will be the order of the day for this test :lou

[OSS EL BOSS]

LOL Newey is already crying about the regulation changes.
He says that their gearbox position allowed them to transfer weight to the back of the car now the ERS batteries have to be placed under the fuel tank thats one advantage taken away by the new regulations, and with the new exhaust outlet position it will be difficult to have so much rake on the car like in the view previous years.

[Kristof_F40]

Merc has stopped

[Sempre_Ferrari]

There really isn't any of the last year's live timings? Msfree.gr for example? You could check the stints of every driver etc. I wasn't able to find anything like this, just autosport and http://directo.caranddriverthef1.com, which is useless :-??

Yea, nothing good out there atm...f1tests.info was the best one for me but no 2014 test on there yet, hopefully it will go live, I'm checking it regularly.

[Ste]

We can say what we want, but the Merc engine is doing a solid job so far..
It's nothing to do with the engine. It's to do with putting the whole package together to get it out on track. Understanding new systems and ways of working. How new components work. As mentioned above, Mercedes already shook down their car (as did Toro Rosso) at Silverstone so they've been through everything we are already.

Notice the only two people who have completed laptimes are in the two cars who completed a shakedown? Force India also did, but you see my point.

[Ste]

Hamilton has crashed in Turn 1. Pics soon...

[Kyss4k]

Merc has stopped

Finally...

[OSS EL BOSS]

Hamilton does 1.27.621 :-E
Now thats worrying!

[Kristof_F40]

It's nothing to do with the engine. It's to do with putting the whole package together to get it out on track. Understanding new systems and ways of working. How new components work. As mentioned above, Mercedes already shook down their car (as did Toro Rosso) at Silverstone so they've been through everything we are already.

Notice the only two people who have completed laptimes are in the two cars who completed a shakedown? Force India also did, but you see my point.

Yeah I know that, I'm not trying to say that we are in a worse position than them.. But the fact that they can do laps ofcourse is good for them.. I mean, only Merc and STR have done some laps, we and Sauber some installation laps.. But a lot of teams haven't had their car out yet so.. For sure it's good for them..

[Ste]

http://i41.tinypic.com/wlrgwg.jpg

[Kristof_F40]

Hamilton has crashed in Turn 1. Pics soon...

Crashed?

[OSS EL BOSS]

:lol Now he crashes

[Ste]

Hamilton does 1.27.621 :-E
Now thats worrying!
I'm more impressed with him binning it.

[anakin]

crashed? not even up to limits?
what went wrong?
lewis wondering
or a car handful to drive?

[bluesilhouettes]

Red flag:

Mercedes 2
Ferrari 1
Renault 0
:rotfl

[Kristof_F40]

http://i41.tinypic.com/wlrgwg.jpg

Wasn't it Lewis last year, who, on his first run with the Merc, crashed the car because of something with the brakes? Remember, he has struggled whole year with brakes..If he doesn't like the brakes, that's good for us, because that makes him as a driver "weaker"

[Kyss4k]

Hamilton does 1.27.621 :-E
Now thats worrying!

Last year the best lap was 1m18.861s, so there is still few seconds left. I don't think there is 10 seconds difference.

[Ste]

Hamilton's front wing fell off before he hit the wall...

http://i40.tinypic.com/281fzmc.jpg

[Ste]

http://i39.tinypic.com/6t1buo.jpg

[Kristof_F40]

Hamilton's front wing fell off before he hit the wall...

http://i40.tinypic.com/281fzmc.jpg

So perhaps a structural problem? Not strong enough on high speed? Wing snaps, you loose the front and crash..

[anakin]

oh, he lost the wing thats why he crashed.
not sturdy enough?

[medeni73]

Yea, nothing good out there atm...f1tests.info was the best one for me but no 2014 test on there yet, hopefully it will go live, I'm checking it regularly.

jaba.hut wrote:Regarding http://www.f1tests.info, as I made translation of site for Serbian language I had kruvas mail and I have asked 3 days ago if he will cover 2014 testing and he replied that sources to collect timing are not available to him this year, so it is highly unlikely that we will se that site working. He said that chances are really small.

[Katu]

that car looks pretty ugly after crashing

[ManFromMilan]

Edit: Sorry it should have been Kimi's video. I hate the Merc's sound


I love the new turbo sound.



http://i41.tinypic.com/wlrgwg.jpg


Way to go LH, crash it. That way no data collection for Merc:-D

And it seems the Horseshoe nose does not bring luck...

[Sempre_Ferrari]

Thanks for the info Medeni73, not good news that, I loved that site :-(

[Ste]

Definitely a failure.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cfvaew.jpg

[OSS EL BOSS]

Last year the best lap was 1m18.861s, so there is still few seconds left. I don't think there is 10 seconds difference.

I know it's not the fastest laptime but the fact that they are already testing the performance of their car is impressive. And also don't forget this year the weather is colder, Pirelli broght conservative tyre compounds specially for this test and the cars are expected to be 4-5 seconds slower.
But now he pushed too hard and crashed :lol

[Kristof_F40]

Definitely a failure.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cfvaew.jpg

Probably the wing that snapped, got under the car, you try to brake, tyres lock up, black mark and you go straight ahead? Like Fernando in Malaysia?

[Super M]

Hopefully now the so called GURUS who made comments that the Merc wing looks mean and great compared to ours, Can now tell me in detail why the wing fell off.......:lou

[hrc5555]

Hamilton's front wing fell off before he hit the wall...

http://i40.tinypic.com/281fzmc.jpg

Haha, they will have to add little weight to that wing so it doesn't crack again! :-D

[Ed Harley]

I know it's not the fastest laptime but the fact that they are already testing the performance of their car is impressive. And also don't forget this year the weather is colder, Pirelli broght conservative tyre compounds specially for this test and the cars are expected to be 4-5 seconds slower.
But now he pushed to hard and crashed :lol
At least they have completed timed laps.

[Ed Harley]

"A car failure for Lewis put him off at Turn One. Cause to be investigated when car returns to the garage."

[Jas]

all of us on here saying how nice their wing was....haha!

[Jas]

I think that may be the last we see of the merc, they will not send out that car without fully knowing what happened...and if all their wings are the same structure...well I think they would be stupid to send him out....but hey, atleast their grabbing the headlines

[Ste]

A dutch website is reporting that their are problems with the Renault engine. causing to much vibration.

Not sure if this is correct or not.

[Senna4Ever]

@MercedesAMGF1: "A car failure for Lewis put him off at Turn One. Cause to be investigated when car returns to the garage."

[Ed Harley]

This surely cannot be the first time teams are running the engines in the cars? I mean they must have been running them on rolling road type of simulators, right?

[S1000RR]

I'm Dutch, what site?

[Kyss4k]

Seeing Ferrari not running, I think it's now clear that there was not the F14-T engine in that LaFerrari.

[ManFromMilan]

A dutch website is reporting that their are problems with the Renault engine. causing to much vibration.

Not sure if this is correct or not.



Not the first rumor about vibration from the Renault engine, so maybe that is their Achilles Heel. And i don't think that a solution for them is going to be that easy this close the the start of the season.( considering how long they have had time to develop )

[Ste]

This surely cannot be the first time teams are running the engines in the cars? I mean they must have been running them on rolling road type of simulators, right?
Of course they have. There are components other than the engine. The entire car is different and there's probably a new way of working that goes along with it.

[Senna4Ever]

jaba.hut wrote:Regarding http://www.f1tests.info, as I made translation of site for Serbian language I had kruvas mail and I have asked 3 days ago if he will cover 2014 testing and he replied that sources to collect timing are not available to him this year, so it is highly unlikely that we will se that site working. He said that chances are really small.

Too bad though
IMHO the best side regarding test infos ... what a petty ...

[Jas]

Seeing Ferrari not running, I think it's now clear that there was not the F14-T engine in that LaFerrari.

HAHA...with such ease it could do so many laps...I think your correct here...LE Mans here we come

[Sianellen]

I'm enjoying the fact that everything is up in the air :-)

[emirBoz]

12:12 Kimi is back on track in the Ferrari.

[medeni73]

Tobias Grüner F1 @tgruener

Electronic problem stopped Force India on first installation lap. Car still in the garage.

[medeni73]

Peter Windsor @PeterDWindsor

Lewis's front wing failure occurred where pylons bond on to the hard centre structure. Team at first thought it was rear wing problem #f1

[OSS EL BOSS]

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Kimi-Raeikkoenen-Ferrari-Formel-1-Jerez-Test-28-Januar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-44d51d56-751168.jpg
http://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Kimi-Raeikkoenen-Ferrari-Formel-1-Jerez-Test-28-Januar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-c443269b-751167.jpg
http://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Kimi-Raeikkoenen-Ferrari-Formel-1-Jerez-Test-28-Januar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-cab4abfd-751170.jpg
http://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Kimi-Raeikkoenen-Ferrari-Formel-1-Jerez-Test-28-Januar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-cec660fb-751171.jpg
http://img4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Kimi-Raeikkoenen-Ferrari-Formel-1-Jerez-Test-28-Januar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-7638e9a1-751177.jpg

Via AMuS

[Senna4Ever]

Say what you want ... I like our 2014 car ... and maybe only Merc looks better ...
if its fast or reliable ... all on a other card ... but I like the way our car looks ...

[Hornet]

Hopefully now the so called GURUS who made comments that the Merc wing looks mean and great compared to ours, Can now tell me in detail why the wing fell off.......:lou

Not sure why you seem to have problem with people liking the competitors design better?

And what does looks have to do with structural failure? Stuff like this happens, we'll see all sort of failures during testing.

[Kristof_F40]

Say what you want ... I like our 2014 car ... and maybe only Merc looks better ...
if its fast or reliable ... all on a other card ... but I like the way our car looks ...
It's a Ferrari, it's red, that's al I care about, oh, and it better be fast as hell!

[bluesilhouettes]

Engine vibration ? :Hmm
I don't think that problem would happen to Ferrari's direct competitor. That kind of problem should be found and solved in dyno test.

But if yes, I have solution for them.
Cry, FIA will allow them to use V8 agian. :lol

[OSS EL BOSS]

Engine vibration ? :Hmm
I don't think that problem would happen to Ferrari's direct competitor. That kind of problem should be found and solved in dyno test.

But if yes, I have solution for them.
Cry, FIA will allow them to use V8 agian. :lol

Because the vibration is too dangerous for the drivers :lol

[OSS EL BOSS]

Kimi goes out on track again

[Ste]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz1MrSdOnlY

[medeni73]

With some of noses we saw I would say vibration comes as a feature? :)))

[Ste]

Straight into P2 for Kimi with a 1m33s131

[OSS EL BOSS]

And we have our first timed lap 1.33.131!

[medeni73]

"very interesting picture diffuser F14 T. The central court is very very interesting. Retains some elements like gurney flap last year, but this is much better looking and certainly very original."

[Kyss4k]

McLaren has big problems with Mercedes engine and will probably not run today.

[OSS EL BOSS]

Good start!

[medeni73]

And we have our first timed lap 1.33.131!

Oh NO we are 5 sec off !!! We're doomed !!! ;)

[Kristof_F40]

With some of noses we saw I would say vibration comes as a feature? :)))

Yeah, as long as the ERS batteries don't fail ;)

[bluesilhouettes]

Oh NO we are 5 sec off !!! We're doomed !!! ;)

Didnt u see Kimi's gently driving ? :-!

[medeni73]

It seems we're using very basic FW, am I wrong or someone wrote that we're getting new FW in Bahrain?

[Kristof_F40]

It seems we're using very basic FW, am I wrong or someone wrote that we're getting new FW in Bahrain?

I suppose we will see already a different wing in other tests.. probably we're just checking systems and engine right know, if that's ok, than aero performance evaluation.. But i'm not sure

[Ste]

Keeping prying eyes out!

http://i44.tinypic.com/2rqzfw0.jpg

[medeni73]

AMuS: "Reason for Ferrari stopping earlier: false telemetry warning"

[FERRARI-0000]

When does it end?

[Hornet]

It seems we're using very basic FW, am I wrong or someone wrote that we're getting new FW in Bahrain?

I think everyone are expected to bring new front wing and other aero bits in Bahrain. This week is probably focus on reliability as they test all the new parts.

Notice that Ferrari is the only one (or one of the few) who have a pitot tube attached to the top. Merc didn't have that which indicates that they are not doing any aero testing.

[Super M]

Not sure why you seem to have problem with people liking the competitors design better?

And what does looks have to do with structural failure? Stuff like this happens, we'll see all sort of failures during testing.


* I don't have a problem at all with others liking competitors design. What i have a problem with is how a flurry of comments made on this thread that Mercs have a better wing and that Ferrari had gone less aggressive and all that bla bla bla......This being already before testing started this morning.
Hence myself wanting these guys that know all about what they see in the pictures to explain why the Mercs nose came off.....Seem that they made some wild statements earlier on......( My comment previously was purely done tongue and cheek ) ........

[OSS EL BOSS]

AMuS: "Reason for Ferrari stopping earlier: false telemetry warning"

So there was nothing wrong with the car!
Good news :thumb

[ManFromMilan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz1MrSdOnlY





I've got goose bumps

[OSS EL BOSS]

Another flying lap by Kimi 1.32.917!

[RedPassion]

Because the vibration is too dangerous for the drivers :lol
But because the whole car is new and these kind of noses are soooooooo dangerous:-(,they will cry a little bit more and will be allowed to use the RB7 of 2011,because blown diffuser are safer than the driver:-(,and wait a minute why not active suspension:-(,cvt gearbox:-(,full traction control and 200 kg lighter than the opponent:-(,For safety of course!!!!!:rotfl
What a bunch of bananas,two years time to develop and starting crying only now:rotfl

[Ste]

Red Bull not on track because a spring in rear suspension was not mounted correctly. Change takes time. AMuS story: http://t.co/RLdNB3euXb

[OSS EL BOSS]

Ano another one 1.30.674!

[Super M]

12:50 Raikkonen stays out and finds a good chunk of time next lap. He's down to a 1m30.674s, so he found two seconds alone on that last lap.

[medeni73]

I think we're good, we're not rushing, testing a bit every detail of a car...this is very important in this phase...

[emirBoz]

rai is coming go raiii :D 1.29

[karvyin12]

12:51 And into the 1m20s for Raikkonen, as his third lap of this run yields a 1m29.474s.

[medeni73]

Tobias Grüner F1 @tgruener

Red Bull not on track because a spring in rear suspension was not mounted correctly. Change takes time.

[RedPassion]

Red Bull not on track because a spring in rear suspension was not mounted correctly. Change takes time. AMuS story: http://t.co/RLdNB3euXb
If they cry maybe they will be allowed to use completely pneumatic actived suspensions at the rear just to prevent dangerous situations of course!:rotfl

[Kristof_F40]

If they cry maybe they will be allowed to use completely pneumatic actived suspensions at the rear just to prevent dangerous situations of course!:rotfl

If they cry hard enough, they might get double points for each race... (them only) cry baby cry..
Meanwhile: Kimi: "They see me rollin' "

[OSS EL BOSS]

Wow thats the longest stint done so far!
Good job Ferrari :clap

[Senna4Ever]

With some of noses we saw I would say vibration comes as a feature? :)))

:haha:
especially those noses referred to a dolphin ...

[OSS EL BOSS]

But because the whole car is new and these kind of noses are soooooooo dangerous:-(,they will cry a little bit more and will be allowed to use the RB7 of 2011,because blown diffuser are safer than the driver:-(,and wait a minute why not active suspension:-(,cvt gearbox:-(,full traction control and 200 kg lighter than the opponent:-(,For safety of course!!!!!:rotfl
What a bunch of bananas,two years time to develop and starting crying only now:rotfl

No no blown diffuser is history!
Now they can blow something else if they want.

[Hornet]

* I don't have a problem at all with others liking competitors design. What i have a problem with is how a flurry of comments made on this thread that Mercs have a better wing and that Ferrari had gone less aggressive and all that bla bla bla......This being already before testing started this morning.
Hence myself wanting these guys that know all about what they see in the pictures to explain why the Mercs nose came off.....Seem that they made some wild statements earlier on......( My comment previously was purely done tongue and cheek ) ........

Well I don't see anything wrong with such opinion, as at the end of the day, it's all just an opinion. The only thing I would disagree with are those who write off our season. Though to be fair, well known tech journalist such as Scarbs (who predicted both stepped nose and finger nose correctly) did stated that the Ferrari initial design looks conservative. That is not to say we'll remain conservative of course as everyone are expected to bring different parts by the time the season starts. Maybe Ferrari have different nose design waiting to be tested too. So it's not necessarily a bad thing at the moment.

[medeni73]

best news till now is that Ferrari engine doesnt show signs of any problems (Sauber runs good too) and it should stay that way :)

[Ste]

Horner open to double points for the last three races:


Red Bull (http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/f1-teams/red-bull/) team principal Christian Horner says extending the unpopular double points plan to three races instead of one could make it less of a lottery.Asked whether the sport’s determination to introduce a rule which an overwhelming majority of fans oppose Horner said: “I think of course the fans’ opinions matter and I think that I don’t think it’s any secret that I wasn’t particularly in favour of it.”
“I can understand why the governing body and the promoter are keen to keep the championship alive until the last race but two out of the last four years it’s gone to the last race under the previous points scoring system.”
Bernie Ecclestone originally proposed to offer double points at the last three races of the year, after Sebastian Vettel won last year’s championship with three races to spare. Horner suggested that might be a better solution.
“It would probably be better to, rather than look at just the last race, if you’re going to end up dealing with the points, is look at more than one race. Look at three races, maybe take away an element of lottery over that last race.
“But it is what it is, it’s the same for everybody as we stand here and that’s what we’ve got.”

My first thought is...does he believe RBR aren't going to cut it until the second half of the season and so wants an opportunity to still win?

[Ste]

best news till now is that Ferrari engine doesnt show signs of any problems (Sauber runs good too) and it should stay that way :)
ssssssssssssssshhhhhhh!!!!

Don't tempt fate.

[RedPassion]

No no blown diffuser is history!
Now they can blow something else if they want.
I know but if they cry to FIA that with such a fuel amount restriction the engine has to work pretty hot and that could be dangerous,and that the turbine is too dangerous,they couls get a V8 aspirated and 200 kg of fuel and blown the diffuser again,Just for safety you know!!!:rotfl

[Kristof_F40]

Horner open to double points for the last three races:



My first thought is...does he believe RBR aren't going to cut it until the second half of the season and so wants an opportunity to still win?

I'm quite sure.. Remember 2012? Systems weren't working briliant, after a dominant 2011. What happens? Mark does a better job than Seb, Fernando leads, second half everything works, Vettel wins everything.. 2013, they start with the fastes car, but tyre issues, tyres get changed, Seb wins everything.. RBR has been the best concerning development during the year.. So they will be stronger at the end of the year..

[medeni73]

Day over for Mercedes

[Ste]

Car tech analysis by Craig Scarborough.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkt5k-x4GT0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cm8DF08QCQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-D5RPHqazc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0jkj2_SZGM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwy7KiARhyE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta1dlfaczFs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uObZQM3Cd3I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgftPJCDFA