Jerez Testing (finally)

[Kristof_F40]

I'm wonderring, is there something wrong with me? I've got an examination off neuroscience at the university in like 3,5 hours and all I'm thinking about is testing... Not good isn't it? ;p

[Forzi]

I'm wonderring, is there something wrong with me? I've got an examination off neuroscience at the university in like 3,5 hours and all I'm thinking about is testing... Not good isn't it? ;p

Gladly, finished my last one on the 27th :-D

[Kristof_F40]

Gladly, finished my last one on the 27th :-D

Luky you! Yesterday day evening I was thinking, bloody me, I spent my whole day watching reports, eventhough they weren't any, with my books open, and I was thinking, I haven't done all day..

[Kyss4k]

Gladly, finished my last one on the 27th :-D

100% the same :-D

[Hornet]

Ted's Notebook for Day 1, if anyone interested. 2nd half of Part 1 capture Ferrari passing by a few time. I think this video gives a clearer idea of how the engine sound like due to better equipment use (as compared to cell phone cameras)

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8vs9MhCpVY

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3igDbOoPyU



sorry guys i dont like the sound of the cars atm. that nice high pitch engine sound is missing and thats what i love the most

Yep, that high pitch sound is the signature sound of a F1 engine, no other engine can produce those sound. This new engine sounds like what we would hear when the car is behind SC running at low RPM and lesser cylinder (which is exactly what they are doing this year).

[wacc]

I thought that after some clarifications a while back there was a rulling that the wishbones have to have some maximum angle of inclination in orther not to work as wings. Quite puzzled by that McLaren...

[Forzi]

Not wishbones.
http://images.scribblelive.com/2014/1/29/67c028db-f5c5-4130-b315-ab788a386593_800.jpg

[tifosi1993]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/843/lpvk.jpg

[Schumyboy83]

The Finn comes round in a 1m39.148s, some two seconds faster than Perez

[anialonso]

Kimi goes Fastest..!!

Edit:1m39.148s

[slak]

Kimi goes Fastest..!!

Edit:1m39.148s

Fast in wet and dry!!! I got a feeling......

[Forzi]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mcla-butt-jere-2014-3.jpg

From this angle seems it's really horizontal, so it's draggy. Can't see it having a beam wing functionality.

[Hornet]

These times are probably still way off what 2014 cars are capable of. So it won't tell us the performance yet.

Perhaps one good thing about this is that we seem confident about our reliability that we can run the car at slightly higher performance than others are doing at this early stage of testing. :Hmm

[Kristof_F40]

09:23 While Ferrari and Sauber are able to get straight down to business, other teams have still spent most of the week so far in their garages.

Nice isn't it?

[Kristof_F40]

It would be very nice if Marussia arives and can get straight in the car and drive as well.. extra data for us

[Hornet]

09:23 While Ferrari and Sauber are able to get straight down to business, other teams have still spent most of the week so far in their garages.

Nice isn't it?

We are already racing :-D


09:24 Our first overtake of the year, as Raikkonen - who got beautifully sideways earlier - nails Gutierrez on the inside of Turn 3.

[Forzi]

Scarbs saying that function of those McLaren suspension arms might be to direct air to the monkey seat. I'm no aerodynamicist, but the monkey seat doesn't give you any decent gains and those wings seem extremely draggy. Is it worth it?

[Kristof_F40]

We are already racing :-D

Yes indeed we are, awesome!

[anialonso]

And our first practice start too. Raikkonen again turns provider, as he pulls to the exit of the pitlane, waits and then launches from the line.

It's not the cleanest of getaways however, as he seems to have to change up early to avoid wheelspin - not entirely unexpected given the slick surface.

Seems Ferrari are very much interested in doing all the things first..Its a shame that they could not get the first lap of 2014

[tifosi1993]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s99QFe6htJ4

F14-T looks pretty stable.

[Avantifer12]

Scarbs saying that function of those McLaren suspension arms might be to direct air to the monkey seat. I'm no aerodynamicist, but the monkey seat doesn't give you any decent gains and those wings seem extremely draggy. Is it worth it?

Agree they look quite draggy but who knows. I hope they don't work because it looks like alot of development have gone into that. I think since 2009 suspension parts should be aero neutral so the only thing that I can think of is that they have taken the encased driveshaft a step further and have encased the wishbone maybe.

[7mi]

Why is it called a monkey seat?

[Forzi]

Why is it called a monkey seat?

It's Y75 winglet technically speaking, but it looks like a little seat for a monkey to fit on so hence the name :-)

[medeni73]

Why is it called a monkey seat?

http://literalf1.com/wp-content/gallery/techf1ep1/Monkey%20Seat%2040.11.jpg

[Kyss4k]

@Marussia_F1Team (https://twitter.com/Marussia_F1Team): "Great to see our Race Team & new @InsideFerrari colleagues arriving at the track this morning. The truck and car are making great progress - should be here mid to late afternoon. So a busy night ahead to prepare ourselves for its debut."

[Forzi]

I thought that after some clarifications a while back there was a rulling that the wishbones have to have some maximum angle of inclination in orther not to work as wings. Quite puzzled by that McLaren...

They can be shaped, but they just have to be aerodynamicly neutral, meaning they have to be vertical. Think there's a few degrees off that mark they can be angled (3 i think?).

[tifosi1993]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/18/gmb8.jpg (http://imageshack.com/a/img18/2971/gmb8.jpg)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/560/nal8.jpg (http://imageshack.com/a/img560/9035/nal8.jpg)

[tifosi1993]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/849/mtrq.jpg (http://imageshack.com/a/img849/2531/mtrq.jpg)

[Kristof_F40]

Does someone have info about the tyres? Seems the wets are more "extreme" than last year?

[Ste]

Ferrari have closed off the engine cover cooling slots.

[Senna4Ever]

Twitter Ferrari (https://twitter.com/InsideFerrari/status/428457596086128640/photo/1)

seems our guys are completely relaxed

Sorry guys #Kimi is too fast to focus on... pic.twitter.com/RfJGgSBoLO :lol

[Forzi]

Like it how the Renault engines are really struggling :-) Just Ferrari and Mercs got their laps in.

[Kristof_F40]

Ferrari have closed off the engine cover cooling slots.

Why would they do that?

[Kristof_F40]

Eric Bouiller at McLaren

[Schumyboy83]

10:03 Raikkonen hits the front once more, shaving one tenth from Bottas's mark to drop down to a 1m38.272s.

[Kristof_F40]

I'm wonderring, Merc was running good yesterday untill the wing.. Still no running for them now

[Kyss4k]

Why would they do that?

It's probably so cold oout there, that they don't need it.

[Kristof_F40]

Williams is running good too

[Kyss4k]

Eric Bouiller at McLaren

yep, good for him

[FerrariFanBoii]

Are McLaren going to have a major sponsor this year? Car livery is lacking

[Kristof_F40]

Are McLaren going to have a major sponsor this year? Car livery is lacking

Rumors say they are fighting over the same sponsor as Lotus

[tifosi1993]

Today's engine mileage:

Ferrari : 38 laps
Mercedes : 22 laps
Renault : 3 laps

[Kyss4k]

Our engines (us and Sauber) are closing on 100 lap mark without any serious problems!

[piglett]

Rumors say they are fighting over the same sponsor as Lotus

Hopefuly they don't get Vodafone as a sponsor this year. Seems all the drivers/teams i hate in motorsports carry logos of Vodafone, RedCow or Mothster Energy.

[Kristof_F40]

Hopefuly they don't get Vodafone as a sponsor this year. Seems all the drivers/teams i hate in motorsports carry logos of Vodafone, RedCow or Mothster Energy.

Probably it's Sony

[ManFromMilan]

Our engines (us and Sauber) are closing on 100 lap mark without any serious problems!





That is great news. :clap

[SashAlex]

From the video posted above, there's a good portion of confidence coming. The car seemed fluent on the mid-fast corners and had good traction on that S chicane. Good to be running and get as much data as possible, which is vital now to find the best set-ups for the car and during the later tests focus on the speed of the car already.

[voiko]

Do you think we will be testing a number of nose pieces like red bull say they are?

[karvyin12]

10:41 Our first red flag of the day. Gutierrez is the only man out on track...:Hmm

[Kyss4k]

Red Flag. Guttierez.

[SinanOzerS]

Our first red flag today.

[Kyss4k]

Uff.. no engine problem, he just made a mistake an is stuck in a gravel trap.

[Hornet]

Uff.. no engine problem, he just made a mistake an is stuck in a gravel trap.

Glad to hear that

[wacc]

Do you think we will be testing a number of nose pieces like red bull say they are?
I do not think so. They are probably evaluating the Mercedes nose as we speak and if it can bring improvements and works with the rest of the car then they will have to do new crash test and bring it to Australia at earliest.

[slak]

Fast lap for Button 1m36.094

[SinanOzerS]

"#wetTyreTesting (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23wetTyreTesting&src=hash) done by #Ferrari (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Ferrari&src=hash). Now we use this time available to work on the car to prepare this afternoon's programme."

[anialonso]

Fast lap for Button 1m36.094
Probably the track is drying quite quickly..
No other reasons seem viable at the moment

[SinanOzerS]

Probably the track is drying quite quickly..
No other reasons seem viable at the moment

"Jenson: "The circuit's almost dry. There are still a few wet patches, but it'll be dry after lunch." #Jerez (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jerez&src=hash) #F1 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23F1&src=hash)"

[Kristof_F40]

Apparantly Ecclestone send a letter to the teams, saying he want double points in the 3 last races.. Clearly this is to help teams who have reliability issues in the beginning, it's not fair, everybody knew te rules a few years so... Serious lobbying from RBR

[Rishu]

Apparantly Ecclestone send a letter to the teams, saying he want double points in the 3 last races.. Clearly this is to help teams who have reliability issues in the beginning, it's not fair, everybody knew te rules a few years so... Serious lobbying from RBR

Hopefully Stefano would rise to the occasion :-P

[FerrariFanBoii]

Probably it's Sony

Yeah I heard Sony as well!

[RedPassion]

Yeah I heard Sony as well!
Thats probably why They togheter with Lotus are showing their cards(concerning technical updates,Lotus of course just by renderings) or at least more that the others,it is just to say i am alive and i am fast.:-P

[delsando]

5695

[Rishu]

Looks better this way

[NyX]

5695
Oh this looks way better ;)

[slak]

5695

Is this Photoshop or the real thing?

[Super M]

Is this Photoshop or the real thing?


Hmmm.......something dont look right in that pic........looks Photoshoped to me........:-E

[Kyss4k]

5695

no

[LAROSA SpA]

Is this Photoshop or the real thing?

Defiantly Photoshop

[Kyss4k]

Hmmm.......something dont look right in that pic........looks Photoshoped to me........:-E

100% shopped

[Super M]

100% shopped

:thumb

[Jas]

Is this Photoshop or the real thing?

Photoshoped...Yesterday sky showed the suspected reasoning for mercades wing failure...like this pic the wing is literally attached by the "pillars" by a 1cm if that...it was rather amazing it didn't break sooner imo!

[Forzi]

5695

Not really liking the way how the black comes out of no where and then disappears when meets the FW.

[Ste]

That photoshop is A) awful and B) worse looking than before.

[Kyss4k]

That photoshop is A) awful and B) worse looking than before.

New profile pic ey? ;-)

[RedPassion]

Guys i cannot believe that,Adrian Newey is now starting to complain that even the batteries under the fuel tank are dangerous:-E :rotfl(of course they were the only one that had them inglobed in the gearbox),quite strange because all other teams has them since 2009 like that(apart from 2010 where Kers was not used),really serious lobbying,i am starting to believe that they are not confident in the car at all!:-(

[Hornet]

Apparantly Ecclestone send a letter to the teams, saying he want double points in the 3 last races.. Clearly this is to help teams who have reliability issues in the beginning, it's not fair, everybody knew te rules a few years so... Serious lobbying from RBR

I hope Ferrari veto this one. 1 race is already ridiculous, 3 is just mockery of the sport :furious

[Kyss4k]

Ehm, why are we still in pits? :roll

[Alonsomaniac]

Good to see the car making it's laps almost completely troublefree. Reliability is the key factor, and if we have that under control from the beginning, then Ferrari can go and concentrate on improving the car right from the start.
To be honest I had expected Kimi to have some problems, but all seems to go perfect.

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

Ehm, why are we still in pits? :roll

Preparing car for afternoon program! It's in the tweets. Could do some long runs.

[Super M]

Ehm, why are we still in pits? :roll


Me thinks we're waiting for Mclaren to hit the barriers with Vettel..... :-D

[RedPassion]

I hope Ferrari veto this one. 1 race is already ridiculous, 3 is just mockery of the sport :furious
RedBull lobbying is really making a mockery of this sport!

[Kyss4k]

Preparing car for afternoon program! It's in the tweets. Could do some long runs.

Sure. That was an hour ago. Even Button, who was running before lunch is out and posting lap times.

[RedPassion]

Me thinks we're waiting for Mclaren to hit the barriers with Vettel..... :-D
Nah,The car has been already fired on,but with all these vibrations it must be better as a massage chair:rotfl

[Ste]

New profile pic ey? ;-)
Si, since yesterday afternoon. Realised it hadn't been updated in...years!

[Ste]

Is Vettels day over? The champion sitting in street clothes in the RB motorhome. He will not drive anytime soon. http://t.co/vKrV12I8SK

[RedPassion]

I heard that RedBull has proposed some important changes to the rules before the first race because of safety concerns,and the Fia came up with a proposal that looks like this:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Red_Bull_X2010_highangle_2012_Tokyo_Auto_Salon.jpg
It even happened that they have something similar already in the factory,so the other teams need just to build a complete new car until may,for the good of motosport of course:nana:nana:nana

[RedPassion]

This is starting to look ankward,isn it?

[Kyss4k]

It seems that Red Bull is about to leave these tests for unspecified problems with the Renault engine :clap

[Ste]

It seems that Red Bull is about to leave these tests for unspecified problems with the Renault engine :clap
REALLY? :rotfl

[RedPassion]

It seems that Red Bull is about to leave these tests for unspecified problems with the Renault engine :clap
:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

[SinanOzerS]

It seems that Red Bull is about to leave these tests for unspecified problems with the Renault engine :clap

:wave

[Super M]

...... Ok! This is now me calling Ferrari Garage......... Please will you go out and start testing again!!!.....Or are you guys busy eating spaghetti with Ice man huih!....:Hmm

[RedPassion]

The left for safety reason :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:r otfl

[anialonso]

A bit more insight from our technical expert GARY ANDERSON on some potential issues for the Renault teams:

"It seems that Renault is having a few problems. Sebastian Vettel's Red Bull was the only Renault-engined car we saw on track for much of today, with both Caterham and Scuderia Toro Rosso being sat in the garage for a long time.

"Red Bull is the works Renault team, so it's conceivable it is doing some troubleshooting work. Yesterday, the Caterham only managed one lap before stopping with an electrical problem while the Toro Rosso had serious trouble with the engine mapping, which Jean-Eric Vergne said led to the car "oscillating". You could see what he meant as it juddered up the pitlane and out onto the track.

"Today, the Mercedes cars are averaging 14 laps per car and the Ferrari-powered machines 24 laps. Vettel has done eight laps, which means the three Renault-engined machines are averaging less than three laps each for over four hours of running."

Music to ma ears..!!!!:clap

[RedPassion]

Will they get help form FIA?Concerning the engines i mean,because they have time until 28.02 to fixes everything,are they doing it on purpose because they recognises early they are not competitive?

[tifosi1993]

It seems that Red Bull is about to leave these tests for unspecified problems with the Renault engine :clap

Brilliant! :rotfl:clap

[anialonso]

When will kimi be back on track..??:Hmm

[medeni73]

Raikkonen on track

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

Most likely the Renault powered teams will organise a seperate test session, no way will bernie or FIA allow the season to start with so much problems for one manufacturer.

[piglett]

This Renault engine problem, more to the point, crankshaft vibration, reminds me of that documentary on youtube about F1 Turbo engines:
http://youtu.be/UfGQnJth6bY
Here, if i remember corectly, Cosworth, had the same crankshaft vibration.

[LAROSA SpA]

It seems that Red Bull is about to leave these tests for unspecified problems with the Renault engine :clap

Horner & Newey will ask the fia if they can run last years car instead :-P

[medeni73]

its getting hot in RB garage :)

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Sebastian-Vettel-Red-Bull-Formel-1-Test-Jerez-29-Januar-2014-fotoshowImage-eb3114da-751680.jpg

[tifosi1993]

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Sebastian-Vettel-Red-Bull-Formel-1-Test-Jerez-29-Januar-2014-fotoshowImage-eb3114da-751680.jpg

:-D

[RedPassion]

:rotfl
Horner & Newey will ask the fia if they can run last years car instead :-P

[RedPassion]

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Sebastian-Vettel-Red-Bull-Formel-1-Test-Jerez-29-Januar-2014-fotoshowImage-eb3114da-751680.jpg

:-DSmoke coming out of the gearbox,no is the turbine,not the ERS,no the engine,hey Guys i do not understing anything of all this WE JUST BUILD CHASSIS OK,JUST CHASSIS ,where are these Renault Chaps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eilfff]

its getting hot in RB garage :)

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Sebastian-Vettel-Red-Bull-Formel-1-Test-Jerez-29-Januar-2014-fotoshowImage-eb3114da-751680.jpg

:clap:clap:clap

[anialonso]

Even if Redbull want a separate test..When would they schedule it.
Next test happens in 2 weeks.
Last test is the following week
and later 2 weeks Aus GP..
:lol

Personally i hope they dont get any.

[slak]

5696

[Kyss4k]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9OYmVw2QjA

Torro Rosso accelerating at 0:28 Ehhh... is that normal?

[slak]

Could they blow diffuser with that?

5697

[Ed Harley]

Torro Rosso accelerating at 0:28 Ehhh... is that normal?
Mapping in early stages perhaps.

[Hornet]

Even if Redbull want a separate test..When would they schedule it.
Next test happens in 2 weeks.
Last test is the following week
and later 2 weeks Aus GP..
:lol

Personally i hope they dont get any.

They already showed up here this week. it would be unfair to get an extra test to replace this week. They should just sit back and enjoy a barbecue for lunch :-G

[tifosi1993]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1429a93.jpg
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1429a94.jpg
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1429a103.jpg

[Super M]

.... Finally Raikkonen is out.........:clap

[Frank Dhont]

They already showed up here this week. it would be unfair to get an extra test to replace this week. They should just sit back and enjoy a barbecue for lunch :-G

The redbull barbecue = the engine :)

[LAROSA SpA]

Torro Rosso accelerating at 0:28 Ehhh... is that normal?

It sounds unbalanced

[WS6TransAm01]

Torro Rosso accelerating at 0:28 Ehhh... is that normal?

Sounds like a boost control issue to me. Can't keep a waste gate closed consistently or something along those lines.

These engines sound like ***. OMG this is terrible. I was about to buy tickets to the Canada race, but now I am not so sure I want to hear this garbage in person. Ugh.

[ManFromMilan]

They already showed up here this week. it would be unfair to get an extra test to replace this week. They should just sit back and enjoy a barbecue for lunch :-G




Everybody had the same time to get their ducks in a row.

Sorry to Lotus and RBR or whoever cannot make their cars work now.

[LAROSA SpA]

The redbull barbecue = the engine :)

:thumb

[Kyss4k]

Ok, false alarm. It turned up, that the statement about RB leaving these tests was made based on the frustration of Red Bul fans in discussions. All that is said is that it is probably over for Vettel today. :-s

[tifosi1993]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1429a84.jpg
http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1429a85.jpg

[Rishu]

Feel for Renault, half of the grid won't finish the races this way.. BUT I don't mind :-D

[piglett]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9OYmVw2QjA

Starting at 1:52 is the F14-T in the upper rev range. that sounds more like it!!!!

[Kyss4k]

Sounds like a boost control issue to me. Can't keep a waste gate closed consistently or something along those lines.

These engines sound like a$$. OMG this is terrible. I was about to buy tickets to the Canada race, but now I am not so sure I want to hear this garbage in person. Ugh.

Well, it will be my first live F1 experience this year. :-s

[Kyss4k]

Starting at 1:52 is the F14-T in the upper rev range. that sounds more like it!!!!

That's 2013 car.

[Ed Harley]

Sorry to spoil the party but there's no guarantee that a red car will finish a race either. It's way too early to tell.

[Rishu]

Sorry to spoil the party but there's no guarantee that a red car will finish a race either. It's way too early to tell.

Nothing is guaranteed we know but Renault's less running is not helping their teams much. They are more susceptible to failures

[Ed Harley]

Only 10 degrees in Jerez. :(

[varun]

Feel for Renault, half of the grid won't finish the races this way.. BUT I don't mind :-D

Yes,,,hell with Renault..as long as the 2 Ferrari's finish and top
and followed by other Ferrari engine's

I am fine with just 6 cars finishing:-D

[ManFromMilan]

Feel for Renault, half of the grid won't finish the races this way.. BUT I don't mind :-D




As long as the two Scarlet Ferrari's finishes:-D

[WS6TransAm01]

Well, it will be my first live F1 experience this year. :-s

You're probably better off. Don't know what you're missing. LOL

At the USGP in 2005 I got to hear the last year of the V10's and it was AWESOME!!! In 06, 07 (Indy) and 12 (Texas) the V8's sounded great! This is just terrible!

[eilfff]

Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener 1m

It's official: Red Bulls day is done. Horner just confirmed it talking to AMuS. Vettel will travel back home this afternoon.

:wave

[medeni73]

RB testing is over for today
all reanult teams are having ERS problems

[SinanOzerS]

"It's official: Red Bulls day is done. Horner just confirmed it talking to AMuS. Vettel will travel back home this afternoon."

[piglett]

That's 2013 car.

Ah, sorry! My bad! Guess i had some high hopes for the sound in the upper revs. However I never disliked the sound of the GT-R 35.

[tifosi1993]

Bye bye Vettel :lol

[medeni73]

Turbo caught fire...

[ManFromMilan]

"It's official: Red Bulls day is done. Horner just confirmed it talking to AMuS. Vettel will travel back home this afternoon."




Shame, so now his girlfriend is going to have two crying babies to contend with:-D.

[Jas]

Mapping in early stages perhaps.

It does sound like some mapping going on...very confident to be doing that so early on...then again...all performance related updates have to be done before aus

[Ed Harley]

We are 10.7 seconds off Button's time.

[Hornet]

I wonder what Renault can do now, bring in new power units? Unless they already have different ERS design waiting to be tested

[LAROSA SpA]

Shame, so now his girlfriend is going to have two crying babies to contend with:-D.

:lol

[Hornet]

13:47 Perez has stopped at Turn 1, so we've got a red flag. Small bit of smoke coming out the back too.

What engine is Force India using

[medeni73]

and one Mercedes engine goes in smokes too :)

[Kyss4k]

We are 10.7 seconds off Button's time.

Because we still didn't run with slicks.

[piglett]

I wonder what Renault can do now, bring in new power units? Unless they already have different ERS design waiting to be tested

I imagine that's a highly advanced brushless motor. If it caught fire, maybe they were trying to feed it too much current, or they had the phase advanced too far.

[tifosi1993]

What engine is Force India using

Ilmor (Mercedes)

[Ed Harley]

Hopefully there are no problems preventing the team testing.

[scuderiafan]

Ilmor (Mercedes)

:lol :thumb

But tbh Kimi hasn't come out in a long while either. Hope it is nothing serious.

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfJtrnbIUAA3Bnp.jpg

[Hornet]

Thanks. Fingers cross that Ferrari engine will be the last man standing that survive this week unscratched

[Ed Harley]

Ilmor (Mercedes)
Not Ilmor but Mercedes.

[medeni73]

Kimi made 3-4 isntallation laps in last 30 minutes, I guess they're playing with some setup...

[Ed Harley]

I can clearly see how this new technology cuts the costs down considerably.

[medeni73]

it looks like major engine problem for Force India...

[Sempre_Ferrari]

We haven't done a hot lap on slicks yet is why and Kimi posted a time of 1m27.104s yesterday which is still quicker than today's top time....not that lap time matters right now, I don't think anyone is going for lap times at this point.

Sorry meant as a response to Ed Harley


We are 10.7 seconds off Button's time.

[M.K]

I can clearly see how this new technology cuts the costs down considerably.

Yeah, on tires maybe.

[Kyss4k]

Yeah, on tires maybe.

Aha! So that was their plan.

[M.K]

Aha! So that was their plan.

Bernie...always one step ahead.

Pirelli are probably happy, because nobody moans about tires anymore :-D

[tifosi1993]

Not Ilmor but Mercedes.

All Mercedes amg F1 engines are made in Britain, by a company formerly known as ILMOR . Mercedes brought the company and renamed it "Mercedes Benz High Performance Engines"

But i am sure you know all this.

[diesel08]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112341

[Super M]

14:02 Here's the full story of Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull and Renault's problems as the world champion curtails his running and flies home:

Red Bull forced to stop running on Wednesday

[Ed Harley]

All Mercedes amg F1 engines are made in Britain, by a company formerly known as ILMOR . Mercedes brought the company and renamed it "Mercedes Benz High Performance Engines"

But i am sure you know all this.
Well, it was named then as Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains.

The point was that Ilmor is long gone as Paul Morgan is dead and Mario Illien works with other things these days.

[Senna4Ever]

Shame, so now his girlfriend is going to have two crying babies to contend with:-D.

:clap
But one will clearly stop when getting some to drink ...

From Autosport

Red Bull's troubled start to pre-season Formula 1 testing continued on Wednesday when Sebastian Vettel's running was cut short by a battery problem.
The reigning champion team had only managed to complete three laps on the opening day on Tuesday because of delays caused by a part being fitted incorrectly ahead of its first run.
Its hopes of getting valuable mileage under its belt on Wednesday were then dealt a blow when Vettel was confined to the pits by what is understood to be a Renault energy store issue early in the afternoon.
The team elected to abandon its running for the day so Renault could be given more time to look into the problem and sort a solution for Thursday.

Vettel has cancelled his media commitments for Wednesday evening and flown home.
His new team-mate Daniel Ricciardo will take over for day three as scheduled.

Vettel's issue comes amid a difficult start to the week for Renault, whose mileage has lagged behind its rival engine manufacturers.

With just over than two hours to run on Wednesday, :-E Mercedes had completed 115 laps with its teams, Ferrari has managed 56 while Renault had done just 11.

Renault's engine chief Rob White admitted after the opening day of testing, where various teams were beset by troubles, that the situation needed to improve dramatically.
"I honestly expected there to be more laps on the board right now, but without real up close knowledge of what has been going on in the garage I don't know what has been happening," he said.
"It is kind of a no brainer, but the pace has to ramp up substantially over the coming days and week."





I can clearly see how this new technology cuts the costs down considerably.

It's really obvious.
Since a single team run nearly the same amount of laps like this year all teams together in the first day it means
- less fuel
- less rubber and used old tires
- less pollution
- less smoke
;)



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112341
not a bad approach ...
will be interesting if it really works like it should be according to Mr. "Matrix" Anderson ...

[tifosi1993]

Well, it was named then as Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains.

The point was that Ilmor is long gone as Paul Morgan is dead and Mario Illien works with other things these days.

Ok, point taken.

[Kyss4k]

Kimi 1m26.585s / 1m26.421s

[Ed Harley]

Not bad sign. :)

[Sempre_Ferrari]

1m26.421s.

[Hornet]

What I hope to see is more number of laps for Ferrari. Let's rival Merc's reliability :pass

[Kyss4k]

1m26.322s ... Bottas

[anuragiyer8989]

1m26.322s ... Bottas

That is Bottas' time :-(

[Sempre_Ferrari]

Important thing is that we putting in the laps now, and no issues reported....may it continue this way

[Jas]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112341

article on mclarens suspension rear...how the hell that reduces drag I will never know...very clever though! Also how are our boys at sauber running?!?!?!

[anuragiyer8989]

Are Merc engines really more reliable and long lasting as compared to Ferrari? Looking at the no. of laps completed and the top times also.....hopefully we can get in some long runs today and for the next 2 days.

[Nova]

So whats up with the innovative Mac rear susp? Anderson writes that they r called blockers
and appear to be the newest idea to show up. Improves downforce at high and low speeds. Interesting.

[Sempre_Ferrari]

Sauber's done 41 laps so far, second most laps for today so far so looks pretty good

[Hornet]

article on mclarens suspension rear...how the hell that reduces drag I will never know...very clever though! Also how are our boys at sauber running?!?!?!

I think what it means by reduce drag is when we compare to the car at slower speed. At low speed, the suspension move in such a way that it close the gap, blocking air and creating a low pressure area above the diffuser.

At high speed, the suspension will cause the thing to separate, opening a gap which allow air to escape which is lesser drag than when it was closed.

[Mister eX]

That is Bottas' time :-(

I don't mean to be rude, but what the hell are you crying for? :D

[F1NAC]

What is going on with Ferrari, are we driving or sitting in pit?

[Jas]

If only we had another team who bought Ferrari engines and were competent enough unlike marussia!!!

[Domo-kun]

Didn't see this coming;
14:39 Ericsson sets a PB of 1m37.975s, putting Caterham above Red Bull!
:D

[anuragiyer8989]

I don't mean to be rude, but what the hell are you crying for? :D

Oops! Didn't find the correct emoticon! But Williams do look strong.....

[Mister eX]

Oops! Didn't find the correct emoticon! But Williams do look strong.....

I think it's too early to draw that conclusion. In fact, it's too early to draw almost any kind of conclusion... :-)

[anuragiyer8989]

I think it's too early to draw that conclusion. In fact, it's too early to draw almost any kind of conclusion... :-)

Well I too think the same but these past few years of Ferrari haven't gone down really well. So being a little pessimistic here. Hopefully this new era in F1 will bring out a new Ferrari team for us.....fingers crossed!

[zike]

I think it's too early to draw that conclusion. In fact, it's too early to draw almost any kind of conclusion... :-)

I think that we can probably conclude that Merc has a good engine

[Mister eX]

Well I too think the same but these past few years of Ferrari haven't gone down really well. So being a little pessimistic here. Hopefully this new era in F1 will bring out a new Ferrari team for us.....fingers crossed!

Oh yeah, I'm also pessimistic, that's why I'm not jumping with joy even when Kimi is on top of the timesheets. It's good to see though, so I'm hoping he posts a really quick time in this last hour. :-D

[Kyss4k]

Button is almost in 1:23s. This is only 5 seconds of the last year's pace

[Ste]

How many laps has Kimi done today?

[Kingdom Hearts]

RB is going to cry a lot and probably they will get an extra day or days of testing, or something "special" from Bernie's heart.


How many laps has Kimi done today?

34

[Nova]

Buttons running well...Williams are surprising me, so is RB for that matter...
Every time I look at the Ferrari nose I go into a slight shock. Like the Macs nose.
When u look at the Mac blockers they could be the surprise ringer idea of the test so far.

[Kyss4k]

How many laps has Kimi done today?



1.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/gb.png
Button

43



2.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/fi.png
Bottas

35


3.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/fi.png
Räikkönen

34


4.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/de.png
Rosberg

76


5.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/mx.png
Perez

37


6.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/mx.png
Gutierrez

46


7.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/se.png
Ericsson

11


8.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/de.png
Vettel

8


9.
http://f1today.net/media/images/icons/flags/ru.png
Kvyat

0

[Kiwi Nick]

The Merc powered cars are really running quite well. Good speed and lots of laps.

[f300v10]

The Marussia has arrived at the track, hopefully they can add to the Ferrari power lap count in the last 2 days of the test.

[Nova]

From C Scarborough:
Aside from McLaren running the oversize rear suspension fairings, they also have a wing profile hidden low down beneath them too

[OSS EL BOSS]

The Mercedes car seems to be already able to complete a full race distance.

[anakin]

is that legal?

[OSS EL BOSS]

I think those are aero sensors on the mclaren.

[Hornet]

Seems like both Merc and Ferrari engine are doing fine at the moment. Sauber quite a number of laps in too.

Unfortunately Marussia is missing, otherwise I think we'll be able to match Merc total lap

[Nova]

15:39 Raikkonen heads out for Ferrari, and is joined shortly by (who else?) Rosberg.
Theyre going to race!!! :-D

[Kristof_F40]

Last year Mercs were also doing a lot of laps, if I remember correctly.. Perhaps different approach? On an other forum I heard someone saying that Merc isn't sure that an engine would last a whole race..

[Nova]

15:40 Incidentally, the average laps per engine manufacturer for today (so far) stand at:

Mercedes - 50 (199 total)
Ferrari - 43 (86 total)
Renault - 6 (11 total)

[RedRebel40]

The Mercedes car seems to be already able to complete a full race distance.

that's not enough now, they have 5 powersystems for the whole season so that means they have to do 4 race weekends with one complete system(engine, turbo, electrics, batterys and so on)

[anakin]

mercedes needs to pile up some laps for today's session
they had a short one yesterday :-D
trying to make up for it :-D

[anuragiyer8989]

Kimi 1.24.812!

[Kristof_F40]

So, I think we can conclude that Renault has serious problems.. Ferrari and Merc: so far so good, but we don't really now which engine is the best, or how they differ.. At this moment, what worries me the most is the fact that Renault will get help from FIA, extra test or something, because think about it, if they start a grand prix nowing they won't finish, because engine blows up, than every race they start will mean 1 engine less, so if they do so, at the end of the season they will have penalties for sure so, perhaps they will refuse to start a race (lobbying) and want double points at the last race (lobbying), I just have the feeling that bad thinks are going to happen for the sport

[diesel08]

Kimi 1.24.812!

very very good!

[OSS EL BOSS]

that's not enough now, they have 5 powersystems for the whole season so that means they have to do 4 race weekends with one complete system(engine, turbo, electrics, batterys and so on)

Sure, but doing so many laps and long runs ( longest run 24 laps) is still impressive in comparison to the others

[RedPassion]

So, I think we can conclude that Renault has serious problems.. Ferrari and Merc: so far so good, but we don't really now which engine is the best, or how they differ.. At this moment, what worries me the most is the fact that Renault will get help from FIA, extra test or something, because think about it, if they start a grand prix nowing they won't finish, because engine blows up, than every race they start will mean 1 engine less, so if they do so, at the end of the season they will have penalties for sure so, perhaps they will refuse to start a race (lobbying) and want double points at the last race (lobbying), I just have the feeling that bad thinks are going to happen for the sport
Then for the sake of F1 they need to be kicked out,in 2 years they were not able to produce something near to what we would call an engine,as Montezemolo said,if they do not have the money for it they should change sport,well i add,if they are not able to compete with other constructors at the same level,without being helped all the time you should just leave.

[Nova]

So, I think we can conclude that Renault has serious problems.. Ferrari and Merc: so far so good, but we don't really now which engine is the best, or how they differ.. At this moment, what worries me the most is the fact that Renault will get help from FIA, extra test or something, because think about it, if they start a grand prix nowing they won't finish, because engine blows up, than every race they start will mean 1 engine less, so if they do so, at the end of the season they will have penalties for sure so, perhaps they will refuse to start a race (lobbying) and want double points at the last race (lobbying), I just have the feeling that bad thinks are going to happen for the sport

Yes but everyone has had the same amount of time to get their units working. And u r right, reno has some serious problems.

[Ed Harley]

They will sort it out, have some faith.

[OSS EL BOSS]

So, I think we can conclude that Renault has serious problems.. Ferrari and Merc: so far so good, but we don't really now which engine is the best, or how they differ.. At this moment, what worries me the most is the fact that Renault will get help from FIA, extra test or something, because think about it, if they start a grand prix nowing they won't finish, because engine blows up, than every race they start will mean 1 engine less, so if they do so, at the end of the season they will have penalties for sure so, perhaps they will refuse to start a race (lobbying) and want double points at the last race (lobbying), I just have the feeling that bad thinks are going to happen for the sport

They will go to Charlie Whiting and cry again.
And Charlie is already in the Red Bull garage as you can see here:

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Sebastian-Vettel-Red-Bull-Formel-1-Test-Jerez-29-Januar-2014-fotoshowImage-11cad7ec-751493.jpg

[Ed Harley]

Was hoping for best time of the 2nd day but this will do.

[Kristof_F40]

Yes but everyone has had the same amount of time to get their units working. And u r right, reno has some serious problems.

Indeed, therefore it wouldn't be fair if they would get such an opportunity.. Did we get extra testing in 2012 when our windtunnel wasn't working??

[RedPassion]

They will go to Charlie Whiting and cry again.
And Charlie is already in the Red Bull garage as you can see here:

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Sebastian-Vettel-Red-Bull-Formel-1-Test-Jerez-29-Januar-2014-fotoshowImage-11cad7ec-751493.jpg

:baby

[F2002]

1) BUT - 1:24.165 (43 laps)
2) RAI - 1:24.812 (47 laps)
3) BOT - 1:25.344 (35 laps)
4) ROS - 1:25.588 (97 laps)
5) PER - 1:28.376 (37 laps)
6) GUT - 1:33.270 (53 laps)
7) ERI - 1:37.975 (11 laps)
8) VET - 1:38.320 (8 laps)

[Kyss4k]

Prepare yourself for tons of articles praising McLaren's car... :-??

[Kyss4k]

1) BUT - 1:24.165 (43 laps)
2) RAI - 1:24.812 (46 laps)
3) BOT - 1:25.344 (35 laps)
4) ROS - 1:25.588 (97 laps)
5) PER - 1:28.376 (37 laps)
6) GUT - 1:33.270 (53 laps)
7) ERI - 1:37.975 (11 laps)
8) VET - 1:38.320 (8 laps)

It's 47 for Kimi

[diesel08]

:baby


:clap same choice

[F2002]

It's 47 for Kimi

That's what my post says ;-)

[Kyss4k]

That's what my post says ;-)

it says 46 :roll

[Kristof_F40]

Prepare yourself for tons of articles praising McLaren's car... :-??

Probably, but the thing is: Mercs were good last year, so on aero level etc. I think they will be good this year, so if they have a good engine they will compete for the championship, if however McLaren has a good car and competes against them, I think they will do something to make them weaker.. Therefore,I don't think McLaren will go for the titel, Merc won't help them that much, and if McLaren doesn't lead the chamionship come halfway, they will start on 2015 car, wich is more important because of Honda.. Ofcourse I can be wrong

[Senna4Ever]

They will go to Charlie Whiting and cry again.
And Charlie is already in the Red Bull garage as you can see here:

http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Sebastian-Vettel-Red-Bull-Formel-1-Test-Jerez-29-Januar-2014-fotoshowImage-11cad7ec-751493.jpg

hard to define if Charlie's smile says:
a) oh boy let's see how long you can play lovely boy to the media if season turns out as a disaster
or
b) no worry we will find a way to make it work for you ... and if we have to penalize those who made good work the last 2 years ...


16:08 Day 2 results:
1 Jenson Button (McLaren) 1m24.165s, 43 laps
2 Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 1m24.812s, 47 laps
3 Valtteri Bottas (Williams) 1m25.344s, 35 laps
4 Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 1m25.588s, 97 laps
5 Sergio Perez (Force India) 1m28.376s, 37 laps
6 Esteban Gutierrez (Sauber) 1m33.270s, 53 laps
7 Marcus Ericsson (Caterham) 1m37.975s, 11 laps
8 Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull) 1m38.320s, 8 laps

wow ... 97 laps that is really really impressive based on the situation ...

[Avantifer12]

Can't stop listening to that dump valve sound from the Ferrari at around 1:00


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4G5ORlCg1w

[Hornet]

Looks like another day went well for us.

Looking forward to tomorrow's test.

[Tony]

Prepare yourself for tons of articles praising McLaren's car... :-??

At this point I'm in Anyone But Red Bull mode, even if it means Ferrari's arch-rivals winning.... I think Red Bull has become the team that I simply hate the most in the 25+ years i've been watching this sport...

[anuragiyer8989]

Can't wait for tmrw!!! The Iceman gives way to the Spanish Bull waiting to pounce on the track! Hope Fernando can rake in some really long runs and top times tmrw!

[tifosi1993]

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/0x0/popup/sutton/2013/dms1429a228.jpg

[ferrari4life]

damn the luck.. finally seem like we have a leg up on red bull only to see the advantage pass along too the merc powered cars...lol

[Nova]

Nice vid, the Ferrari engine def sounds better than the Merc, the Williams almost sounding like a truck.
Of the noses Ive seen so far, Id say the Mac is the most F1 looking of the F1 cars..if that makes any sense.
Anyone know what tires Button used to set fastest time?

[tifosi1993]

damn the luck.. finally seem like we have a leg up on red bull only to see the advantage pass along too the merc powered cars...lol

BOTTAS for WDC!

[Nova]

And I have to add, Ferrari, make the car ALL Red please.
Too much black, looks like a customer car.

[Kristof_F40]

And I have to add, Ferrari, make the car ALL Red please.
Too much black, looks like a customer car.

There probably is a reason for the black, it's not for looks I think

[Nero Horse]

Prepare yourself for tons of articles praising McLaren's car... :-??

Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking too. It's always that way, when Macca goes fastest in one day in testing then "Oh wow, they must have a really good car, they will win all the races and they will be champions woohooo!" but when Ferrari goes fastest then "oh it's still early days to talk about anything...and it was probably just a fluke and etc."...this pretty much sums up the english speaking media mindset. Will be seeing a lot of articles hyping the Macca car now LOL. :roll
Well, let them hype all they want, I don't care.

[F2002]

it says 46 :roll

Was joking mate, I edited it after I saw your one.

[shamim179]

Again another productive day.

What worries me is Mercedes! Their engine seems good. Their team has brilliant technical minds. They also have two extremely quick drivers. They may be the team to beat this year.

[Senna4Ever]

I think Red Bull has become the team that I simply hate the most in the 25+ years i've been watching this sport...

If you're looking for members for your extraordinary group ... I would join ... what does it cost for one year?

cheers ...

[Kristof_F40]

Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking too. It's always that way, when Macca goes fastest in one day in testing then "Oh wow, they must have a really good car, they will win all the races and they will be champions woohooo!" but when Ferrari goes fastest then "oh it's still early days to talk about anything...and it was probably just a fluke and etc."...this pretty much sums up the english speaking media mindset. Will be seeing a lot of articles hyping the Macca car now LOL. :roll
Well, let them hype all they want, I don't care.

Remember last year? Wow, McLaren is impressive! During the season they are slow, what about the time during testing? "Yeah, we ran an illegal car height beacause of a mistake"

[Nova]

As far as the teams go, Id love to see a good old fashioned Ferrari Mac Williams battle this year.

[Nero Horse]

damn the luck.. finally seem like we have a leg up on red bull only to see the advantage pass along too the merc powered cars...lol

And you're basing your assumptions on what exactly? On two days of testing???

[radosav]

There probably is a reason for the black, it's not for looks I think

Ferrari has saved 500 grams of weight by not painting back of the car in red ! Everything counts these days!

[Alonsomaniac]

The difference in number of laps between Ferrari and Mercedes powered cars versa Renault powered cars is eh....remarkable....:-D...let´s keep it that way. I also like Vettel´s fastest time.....:rotfl

[Nero Horse]

Ferrari has saved 500 grams of weight by not painting back of the car in red ! Everything counts these days!

I hope we don't see an all black Ferrari next year, if this weight saving trend continues the same way. Our car has now gotten more black every year. I don't mind the current black parts of the livery but for me this is definitely the maximum level of blackness that I can tolerate on a Ferrari F1 car. Hopefully next year Ferrari will find other ways to save weight than skimping on the beautiful red paint.

[Hornet]

Wait, so the black area is actually bare naked carbon fiber? I always thought they had to paint them black.

Yeah, lets hope we don't end up with all black car in the future:-??

[hrc5555]

Anyone knows what is this?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112341


Will that be hard to copy?

[ferrari4life]

And you're basing your assumptions on what exactly? On two days of testing???

no I am a wizard and i looked into my magic 8 ball.

[evo_spook]

Anyone knows what is this?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112341


Will that be hard to copy?


For your info. Ferrari have it already under the scope


http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9140214/mclaren-rear-design-catches-the-eye-and-the-attention-of-rival-teams

[Dino]

Wait, so the black area is actually bare naked carbon fiber? I always thought they had to paint them black.

Yeah, lets hope we don't end up with all black car in the future:-??

The black is actually paint.I read somewhere that Ferrari used a new black paint that is about a fifth the weight of normal red paint.:thumb

[Jas]

For your info. Ferrari have it already under the scope


http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9140214/mclaren-rear-design-catches-the-eye-and-the-attention-of-rival-teams

thanks for the article!

[hrc5555]

For your info. Ferrari have it already under the scope


http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9140214/mclaren-rear-design-catches-the-eye-and-the-attention-of-rival-teams


Allison seen it for the first time today...