2012 Canadian Grand Prix - Race thread

[qb_marukochan]

i wonder if there are many glory hunters in here... lol

[Hornet]

Ok than guys... Let everyone in Ferrari get an axe. You are rediculous, all of you. Few races ago you were admiring our team, our strategists and one bad race and you are furious and want to sach everyone. Great support, great fans you are.

Ferrari made a huge mistake. There's nothing wrong admitting that. It was an amateur mistake.

Just because you support a team doesn't mean you ignore all its shortcoming.

In fact, Ferrari need to take a hard look at what happened today and learn from it. If we all bury our heads each time something like this happens, we're never going to improve. I'm sure Ferrari will be looking into it rather than brushing it off.

[sav_pap]

also we have the example of lotus with raikonnen (i don't remember which race) who lost many places in the last laps.
How many kilos of brain you need to own to understand that 50 laps with one set of tyres is impossible.
Bravo guys. Next time put half of fuel. Maybe it's a gamble but who knows . We could win...
Idiots

[Ste]

Just be thankful we don't have Button driving for us...

[hogo]

LOL it's a track that did not suit us, we performed well in general. You love to be negative though

Do I have to quote Alonso what he said before this weekend? And lol none of the tracks suit us it seems, same excuse ALL THE TIME.

[qb_marukochan]

Just be thankful we don't have Button driving for us...

lol. he will crying from melbourne till now, and he cannot give anything to his team, just crying and crying

[Aussie]

when lewis pitted hAD 15 secs by Fernando. If they had the decision ready to pit Alonso we could fight with lewis for win. If lewis had won we could keep p2 and championship lead. they gambled in a point where it wasn't necessary.

Brainless people......

Mate we are still coming second in the championship.
Still love Ferrari win or lose. Get over it love to watch you run a bloody pit wall.

[Rob]

also we have the example of lotus with raikonnen (i don't remember which race) who lost many places in the last laps.
How many kilos of brain you need to own to understand that 50 laps with one set of tyres is impossible.
Bravo guys. Next time put half of fuel. Maybe it's a gamble but who knows . We could win...
Idiots

what you on about? its 1 race, still good points, its racing and its about gambling. What would you rather? not finish? and you still be unhappy. At end of day Fernando still 2nd and couple points behind Louise.

[Kyss4k]

Yet you are saying not pitting gave us a chance? LOL had we pitted then 2nd was safe with a chance of the win.

THERE WAS NO CHANCE OF WIN if we would stick to the 2 stop strategy! Did you guys watch the race? Lewis was controling it easily in the second stint, he was quicker than Alonso. If they wanted to win, they had to try something different and so did Vettel. Ok, we didn't react and that was crap, but the idea was not all bad. As I said, If the race was 4 laps shorter, he would have finished 2nd. But I will let you cry, I don't want to read this cr*p that you all are throwing on our team, which was flawles till today this year. I thought different about tifosi...

[wacc]

It was a decision based on available information. They for sure had some reason to believe the tires would last till the end. Sometimes that decision turns out to be bad. But that doesnt mean that the strategist is brainless.

[Rob]

Just be thankful we don't have Button driving for us...

Have too start getting those replacement rumours starting as he not performing

[Aussie]

6 am here I am rooted night

[SanderV]

We've had some amazing results with an average car this season. Today we gambled and lost out. The car seems to be improved again. I'm sure we can fight for wins for the rest of the season.

[scuderiafan]

pathetic comment.

Ferrari went for the win, isn't that what everyone wanted?

Apparently they were too conservative in Monaco and
now they're too aggressive.

Some people are never pleased.


It's not the best result, but it ain't terrible. I'm looking forward to Valencia.

This, this 1000x this.

Also i guess the tyre people were BSing. They said you could do a race distance on the softs. Remember, a decision is only as good as its information.
And also, the tyres went off pretty unpredictbly.

[theforce]

Just noticed Perez starting 15th

[ClaudiuCojo]

A lot of people need to grow up, it was a calculated risk that did not pay off, it's better to try and fail than not to try at all.
I have 0 problems with what Ferrari did today, it's good that we have some guys willing to take risks, we did not loose anything, we are 2 pt. of the leader and the car is good, our time will come, today we had the second fastest car by merit and I'm very happy with that.

[Bonjers]

Ferrari must have seen Felipe was struggling on his tyres after such a long stint, so why did they repeat the process of Fernando?

It's incredibly frustrating as our strategies etc have been spot on mainly this season, and now we have the car we make a hash of the strategy! Ahhhh.

[tpe]

I don't want to add my voice to criticism. I just want to point 2 things:
Watching live timing it was apparent that FM had troubles with his tyres, 1 or 2 laps after LH pitstop.
Then, FM was in for the new set of tyres and he managed some great times (01:16)
So, the should have noticed that and call FA in. I did and I am not the strategist of Ferrari... Clearly a wrong decision, and I hope that they do learn something from that.

[Grillo]

If they stopped and Vettel stayed out then the win could have been Vettel's.

That was the problem, that's why they didn't stop.

[Kingdom Hearts]

I'm going to have nightmares tonight, P5 and P10, horrible result and Massa :(

At least the car is a little better and Alonso is there in the head of the championship.

[Greig]

THERE WAS NO CHANCE OF WIN if we would stick to the 2 stop strategy! Did you guys watch the race? Lewis was controling it easily in the second stint, he was quicker than Alonso. If they wanted to win, they had to try something different and so did Vettel. Ok, we didn't react and that was crap, but the idea was not all bad. As I said, If the race was 4 laps shorter, he would have finished 2nd. But I will let you cry, I don't want to read this cr*p that you all are throwing on our team, which was flawles till today this year. I thought different about tifosi...

There was every chance of the win had we pitted, Lewis might have had a problem, the race as not 4 laps shorter it's not a valid if to make. I am not crying in the slightest, nor am I throwing any crap at the team, it was the wrong decision and I bet they will admit it themselves.

[M.K]

2 points behind leader, could be better, could be much worse. This kind of mistake you make once in a season, better now than in Brazil.
Our strategy generally is quite good and cars pace seems to become better every race, no need to panic over one mistake.

[Grillo]

Come on, we should wait 5 or 10 minutes before we start posting knee-jerk reactions.

[sav_pap]

pathetic comment.

Ferrari went for the win, isn't that what everyone wanted?

Apparently they were too conservative in Monaco and
now they're too aggressive.

Some people are never pleased.


It's not the best result, but it ain't terrible. I'm looking forward to Valencia.

No it's not the win we wanted today. It was the champ leading. I'm talking my friend for gambling.
They gambled knowing that chances was below 20%. Would you do it???
And as for the "pathetic" have a look at others posts and you we'll find that it's the majority...

[Kyss4k]

Ferrari made a huge mistake. There's nothing wrong admitting that. It was an amateur mistake. Just because you support a team doesn't mean you ignore all its shortcoming. In fact, Ferrari need to take a hard look at what happened today and learn from it. If we all bury our heads each time something like this happens, we're never going to improve. I'm sure Ferrari will be looking into it rather than brushing it off.

I ignored it? What the hell? Didn't I admited, that it was a bad race after all? If was not worked out, so yes, in the end it was a mistake, but the team was perfect till now, so why are you guys firing the team again? ONE BAD RACE! Look at McLaren! Look at Lotus!

[Greig]

Do I have to quote Alonso what he said before this weekend? And lol none of the tracks suit us it seems, same excuse ALL THE TIME.

Yes do quote him as the team said this is would not be the ideal track for us, there was no excuses, you seem to be happy about it though as usual.

[Stormsearcher]

What just happened??!!! Watched in horror as lewis started reeling in Vettel and Nando. Got reminded of how Kimi got butchered a few races back. The team should have switched immediately. A gamble yes, but too optimistic IMO.

We are surely missing something (as in us, the fans) cause it was blatantly obvious how this was going to end when lewis pitted and started taking chunks of time off the lead. Surely the team saw it, surely someone as astute as Fernando knew the situation. Hmmmm.... guess we'll know soon.

Anyways, we are just 2 points off. Better than last season, and at least the car is good now. We can fight all the way thru.

[Stormsearcher]

2 points behind leader, could be better, could be much worse. This kind of mistake you make once in a season, better now than in Brazil.
Our strategy generally is quite good and cars pace seems to become better every race, no need to panic over one mistake.

Good one. Agree 100%

[Kyss4k]

There was every chance of the win had we pitted, Lewis might have had a problem, the race as not 4 laps shorter it's not a valid if to make. I am not crying in the slightest, nor am I throwing any crap at the team, it was the wrong decision and I bet they will admit it themselves.

For god's sake... Yes, in the end, it was a bad decision. But you can't get it alway right, can you? There was a chance it would work out, they are not dumb. And once again, there was no chance of winning the race if we pitted twice. Lewis was way too quick and if you didn't see that, I am sorry for you.

[FFFerrari]

Alonso had a good race ... until the pit wall decided to destroy it. Eventually even Raikkonen was really close to him on a similar (but better paced) strategy that tells about the monumental screw up from strategy department. Following HAM or VET on strategy could have saved either 2nd or 3rd place, now we were really lucky to be 5th insted of 8th.

It shows why Felipe has performed in the last two races - SS/Soft compounds and developed car. Even then he uses the tyres up way too fast and the end results are just sad. The current racing where you need to be quick AND manage your tyres just doesn't suit him at all. Come the races with harder compounds, I bet he will continue to have the same problems. He still has pure speed but in races it's just not enough.

Alonso gets a B+, Massa a C- and the pit wall a F. The tyre crew still worked a top notch job so thumbs up for them.

Oh and the race was pretty exciting too. Too bad that we are still 4th in WCC...