F14-T- Development & News

[Ed Harley]

Thanks. :-D

[Winter]

Thanks. :-D

:-D

[stefa]

EDDIE, hallowed be thy name :clap :rock

I see. We are here on the same page :rock

[abbottcostello]

Ys well unless he actually goes to merc, he's not going to win..
How many customer mercs beat the factory team this year?

Just a thought
McLaren - Honda won't be a Merc customer!

[Brembo]

Could it be Ferrari put customers motors in Alonso a nd Kimi's cars by mistake?

[NickEice]

Could it be Ferrari put customers motors in Alonso a nd Kimi's cars by mistake?

The motors are all the same. It is the computer source code that differs constructor to constructor as per Ron Dennis' recent quotes about why a customer team can no longer challenge for a championship in today's F1.

[jpalmito]

According to autosprint this week the f666 is now 3 points aerodynamically better than the f14t!
And that despite the new need for more cooling because the more powerful engine!
Just want to say to autosprint "s..t up your m...h"!

[Winter]

According to autosprint this week the f666 is now 3 points aerodynamically better than the f14t!
And that despite the new need for more cooling because the more powerful engine!
Just want to say to autosprint "s..t up your m...h"!

Isn't that supposed to be a good news?
Just keep it coming, real or less real, there has been enough negative things to read for 1 season!
At this point I'm ready take any positive news, no matter what s..t paper or site provides them :lol

[zike]

According to autosprint this week the f666 is now 3 points aerodynamically better than the f14t!
And that despite the new need for more cooling because the more powerful engine!
Just want to say to autosprint "s..t up your m...h"!

around a tenth of a second faster than f14t

[Winter]

around a tenth of a second faster than f14t

If that tenth comes from aerodynamics only, there's more to come with more hp.s and hopefully better power control.

And 666 is yet only a infant anyway..

[zike]

If that tenth comes from aerodynamics only, there's more to come with more hp.s and hopefully better power control.

And 666 is yet only a infant anyway..

Yup, hopefully

[Kiwi Nick]

How much faster will the 2015 Mercedes be compared to this year? 0.2...0.5...1.0..1.5 sec.? The bigger turbo on the 666 had better add a lot more power and then pray for any help on the aero side of the equation.

[Ed Harley]

I don't think that the PU is Ferrari's biggest Achilles heel.

[Brembo]

The motors are all the same. It is the computer source code that differs constructor to constructor as per Ron Dennis' recent quotes about why a customer team can no longer challenge for a championship in today's F1.

Thanks for the reply. So it seems a engine customer " Marussia/Ferrari ", knows they have no shot at the Mfg. team. They just need an engine and whatever good comes along with hooking up with a certain team like Mrerc, Ferrari. If Honda comes up with a good pu. All hell may break out!

[Nova]

Arent the 2 teams that dropped out both Ferrari engine customers?
That would leave only Sauber, then Haas in 16..

[Kiwi Nick]

Arent the 2 teams that dropped out both Ferrari engine customers?
That would leave only Sauber, then Haas in 16..

No, Caterham is a Renault customer. The two Ferrari customers are Marussia and Sauber.

[Sriharsha]

According to autosprint this week the f666 is now 3 points aerodynamically better than the f14t!
And that despite the new need for more cooling because the more powerful engine!

Can you pass the article link

[ARUN M KARUNAN]

I can understand ferrari is not forgotten to make a engine.they will come up with strong pu.but why we are lacking in aero and why it is repeated story from 2010.

[Senna4Ever]

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/10/16529.html

let's see which car will have this 2015 parts mounted ...

[tifosi1993]

Austin, Texas, US (Thursday)

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[Sriharsha]

New Brake duct
http://www.omnicorse.it/img/articoli/evidenza/43189_ferrari-restano-tre-pinne-sulla-brake-duct-anteriore.jpg

[tifosi1993]

New Brake duct
[PIC]

Its not new. They have used it in Monaco.

Austin

http://i.imgur.com/TNqttqYl.jpg

Monaco

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Ferrari-Formel-1-GP-Monaco-21-Mai-2014-fotoshowBigImage-d58684fd-779771.jpg

[Sriharsha]

Its not new. They have used it in Monaco.

Austin

http://i.imgur.com/TNqttqYl.jpg

Monaco

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Ferrari-Formel-1-GP-Monaco-21-Mai-2014-fotoshowBigImage-d58684fd-779771.jpg

Oh thanks for lighting me up , I thought its the first time to use it

[Jose Lorca]

Ferrari's new rear suspension for 2015!
Discovery of a cause traction problems of the F14 T. Changes useful for the emerging 666


The Ferrari Austin features a revised rear suspension . This is a very important innovation for the definition of the 666, the first car of James Allison that we will see on the track in 2015 and that it should maintain the same pattern of linkage used this year.

The F14 T has always suffered from a lack of grip in the rear: Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen have always complained about the lack of traction when accelerating, to the point that the technicians of the Prancing Horse in some tracks such as Canada, have been forced to correct even the turbo engine mapping to reduce the torque of the power unit is recorded as still skidding harmful to the Pirelli tires in fourth and fifth gear !

The team of the Horse , in short, has been forced to choke the pair of 059/3 reviled because it was impossible to download on earth the power of the V6 Turbo. So the power unit that already pay a serious gap in horses with the Mercedes engine was further penalized.

The chassis engineers have always accused the engine to be too cranky, and Rory Byrne , called periodically in Maranello in the role of consultant luxury, he found that there was a mechanical problem to accentuate the loss of traction out of corners, especially the lens.

In reviewing all of the data (track, simulation and wind tunnel) would emerge the ' anomaly in the rear suspension . It must be said that the pull rod layout has not changed much in the last three years, but the transition from the 2.4-liter naturally aspirated V8 power unit of the 1.6-liter V6 turbo must have required an adjustment of the attachment points of the upper arm in order to improve the recovery camber el ' pro-squat , just to ensure the traction against a vastly superior torque provided by supercharging.

It will be interesting to see if the Ferrari will be able to improve the performance of the F14 T in the last three races of the season: having discovered the error on the rear suspension gave a positive boost to the technical group of the Horse, for the benefit that will be found on the machine This year also will be transferred to the new one ...

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/43207/f1-gp-austin-tecnica-ferrari-nuova-sospensione-per-il-2015

[tifosi1993]

Austin, Texas, US (Friday, FP1)

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[gjoko-mkd]

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/43207/f1-gp-austin-tecnica-ferrari-nuova-sospensione-per-il-2015


http://www.omnicorse.it/img/articoli/evidenza/43207_ferrari-c--una-nuova-sospensione-posteriore-per-il-2015.jpg

[KimiBot]

Räikkönen sure Ferrari can make 'big leap'

Kimi Räikkönen says he is sure that Ferrari will make a "big leap" forward next year after enduring a troublesome 2014 campaign with the F14 T.

Räikkönen returned to Ferrari at the start of the year but has yet to finish on the podium and lies 12th in the Drivers' Championship, with his team fourth in the Constructors' battle.

Räikkönen, who has amassed 47 points this season, is confident that Ferrari, the only one of the three power unit suppliers yet to win a race under the V6 regulations, can make progress in 2015.

"I have a 100 percent trust in the people who run the team and build the cars," he said. "I am sure we can have a good package: will it be good enough? Only time will tell. We have a lot of work to do and we have learned a lot from this year.

"We don't expect to suddenly jump to the front and be winning the races, but we can make a big leap and be up there fighting. Until we put it on track and do those first laps at the first test we won't know.

"We know where the issues are and our people are smart enough to fix them. According to the rules, there are limits to what we can do but we will improve."

Despite experiencing a tough season, Räikkönen insists that he made the right decision to return to Ferrari, the team with which he won the 2007 title.

"For sure I made 100 percent the right decision to return to Ferrari," he said. "The results have not been the ones I wanted or the team wanted, but that's how it goes.

"We have made progress from where we started, but it's not easy to get things exactly as you want. But I am happy to be here. I'd rather be with Ferrari than with any other team. So I'm sure I made the right decision coming here."

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/318223/raikkonen-sure-ferrari-can-make-big-leap/

[Winter]

Räikkönen sure Ferrari can make 'big leap'

Kimi Räikkönen says he is sure that Ferrari will make a "big leap" forward next year after enduring a troublesome 2014 campaign with the F14 T.

Räikkönen returned to Ferrari at the start of the year but has yet to finish on the podium and lies 12th in the Drivers' Championship, with his team fourth in the Constructors' battle.

Räikkönen, who has amassed 47 points this season, is confident that Ferrari, the only one of the three power unit suppliers yet to win a race under the V6 regulations, can make progress in 2015.

"I have a 100 percent trust in the people who run the team and build the cars," he said. "I am sure we can have a good package: will it be good enough? Only time will tell. We have a lot of work to do and we have learned a lot from this year.

"We don't expect to suddenly jump to the front and be winning the races, but we can make a big leap and be up there fighting. Until we put it on track and do those first laps at the first test we won't know.

"We know where the issues are and our people are smart enough to fix them. According to the rules, there are limits to what we can do but we will improve."

Despite experiencing a tough season, Räikkönen insists that he made the right decision to return to Ferrari, the team with which he won the 2007 title.

"For sure I made 100 percent the right decision to return to Ferrari," he said. "The results have not been the ones I wanted or the team wanted, but that's how it goes.

"We have made progress from where we started, but it's not easy to get things exactly as you want. But I am happy to be here. I'd rather be with Ferrari than with any other team. So I'm sure I made the right decision coming here."

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/318223/raikkonen-sure-ferrari-can-make-big-leap/

Yes Kimi, you better be right:pass

[diesel08]

Räikkönen sure Ferrari can make 'big leap'

Kimi Räikkönen says he is sure that Ferrari will make a "big leap" forward next year after enduring a troublesome 2014 campaign with the F14 T.

Räikkönen returned to Ferrari at the start of the year but has yet to finish on the podium and lies 12th in the Drivers' Championship, with his team fourth in the Constructors' battle.

Räikkönen, who has amassed 47 points this season, is confident that Ferrari, the only one of the three power unit suppliers yet to win a race under the V6 regulations, can make progress in 2015.

"I have a 100 percent trust in the people who run the team and build the cars," he said. "I am sure we can have a good package: will it be good enough? Only time will tell. We have a lot of work to do and we have learned a lot from this year.

"We don't expect to suddenly jump to the front and be winning the races, but we can make a big leap and be up there fighting. Until we put it on track and do those first laps at the first test we won't know.

"We know where the issues are and our people are smart enough to fix them. According to the rules, there are limits to what we can do but we will improve."

Despite experiencing a tough season, Räikkönen insists that he made the right decision to return to Ferrari, the team with which he won the 2007 title.

"For sure I made 100 percent the right decision to return to Ferrari," he said. "The results have not been the ones I wanted or the team wanted, but that's how it goes.

"We have made progress from where we started, but it's not easy to get things exactly as you want. But I am happy to be here. I'd rather be with Ferrari than with any other team. So I'm sure I made the right decision coming here."

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/318223/raikkonen-sure-ferrari-can-make-big-leap/

Raikkonen from the beginning of the season was upbeat, sing the same music, just lacks performance.

[stefa]

Räikkönen sure Ferrari can make 'big leap'

Kimi Räikkönen says he is sure that Ferrari will make a "big leap" forward next year after enduring a troublesome 2014 campaign with the F14 T.

Räikkönen returned to Ferrari at the start of the year but has yet to finish on the podium and lies 12th in the Drivers' Championship, with his team fourth in the Constructors' battle.

Räikkönen, who has amassed 47 points this season, is confident that Ferrari, the only one of the three power unit suppliers yet to win a race under the V6 regulations, can make progress in 2015.

"I have a 100 percent trust in the people who run the team and build the cars," he said. "I am sure we can have a good package: will it be good enough? Only time will tell. We have a lot of work to do and we have learned a lot from this year.

"We don't expect to suddenly jump to the front and be winning the races, but we can make a big leap and be up there fighting. Until we put it on track and do those first laps at the first test we won't know.

"We know where the issues are and our people are smart enough to fix them. According to the rules, there are limits to what we can do but we will improve."

Despite experiencing a tough season, Räikkönen insists that he made the right decision to return to Ferrari, the team with which he won the 2007 title.

"For sure I made 100 percent the right decision to return to Ferrari," he said. "The results have not been the ones I wanted or the team wanted, but that's how it goes.

"We have made progress from where we started, but it's not easy to get things exactly as you want. But I am happy to be here. I'd rather be with Ferrari than with any other team. So I'm sure I made the right decision coming here."

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/318223/raikkonen-sure-ferrari-can-make-big-leap/

Like he would say this was the worst decision in my life ever! :-) Completely understandably PR talking, which is good in the way... One needs to be, stay positive, for positive things to happen...

[Senna4Ever]

Can it be that we have used flow viz in FP1 on our car?
They wheren't shown very often in the first part of FP1 but somehow it look it was on rear wing and on the floor ...

[wacc]

Yes, it can. They tested the new rw.

http://i57.tinypic.com/1588589.jpg

[Nova]

Did u see in FP1 the piece placed ahead of Kimi's cockpit, I think they said it was a piece for the
drivers site of the track, as the new car will be of that height around the cockpit,
and they wanted see if Kimi would have a problem there.
What I noted was that Alonso's car was never fitted with it.
At least if it was, I never saw it.

[FerrariF60]

Did u see in FP1 the piece placed ahead of Kimi's cockpit, I think they said it was a piece for the
drivers site of the track, as the new car will be of that height around the cockpit,
and they wanted see if Kimi would have a problem there.
What I noted was that Alonso's car was never fitted with it.
At least if it was, I never saw it.

could it be that he didn't get fitted one because he's NOT gonna be with us next year?? so why ask for his input if he ain't gonna be there.... i personally think so...

[Nova]

Well until we know 4sure then we can only speculate.

[Ed Harley]

This is in wrong topic - please delete.


According to Auto, Motor und Sport Mario Illien joins Renault.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/volle-attacke-auf-mercedes-renault-verstaerkt-sich-mit-mario-illien-8848263.html

[ARUN M KARUNAN]

According to Auto, Motor und Sport Mario Illien joins Renault.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/volle-attacke-auf-mercedes-renault-verstaerkt-sich-mit-mario-illien-8848263.html

srry.brief translation to English please

[Kiwi Nick]

srry.brief translation to English please

Mario Illien, former head of Ilmor, will join Renault to help trouble shoot current F1 engine. He has experience.

[Senna4Ever]

Yes, it can. They tested the new rw.

http://i57.tinypic.com/1588589.jpg

Thanks for sharing!

Illien with Renault? If true not a bad move by them

[tifosi1993]

Autódromo José Carlos Pace, Interlagos, Brazil (06/11/2014)

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[AfterLife]

Autódromo José Carlos Pace, Interlagos, Brazil (06/11/2014)
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Hello Mr. Domenically. Nice to see you :wave

[fratelliferrari]

Hello Mr. Domenically. Nice to see you :wave

Looks like his brother :lol

[Rob]

http://i57.tinypic.com/hsuy3b.jpg
piola wrote:
The Ferrari has gone to the verification of the GP of Brazil with the two F14 T in different configurations of the left rear suspension but with the same pattern : in the two images Effe Tech 1 you can see the differences. On the left, you can see the upper triangle of the car of Kimi Raikkonen who seems to have more levers to read (and stiffer) that have been specially faired with covers that look made ​​in rapid prototyping (for which the airfoil can be easily changed), while on the right you can see the traditional version installed on the machine's Fernando Alonso . Almost certainly these are experiments to gather information for the 666 , the number of machine design in 2015. The suspension of the right, however, seems to be the same for both drivers. We will see in practice such experiments will be done on the Red ...

[Senna4Ever]

@Picture above

is this flow viz at the inner part of the wheel? Looks kind of yellow there ...

[mkable1370]

@Picture above

is this flow viz at the inner part of the wheel? Looks kind of yellow there ...

6010

You mean this (with the arrow)? Yes, I agree it looks like it to me too.

[Senna4Ever]

6010

You mean this (with the arrow)?

Exactly!
Thanks for refining my question

[gjoko-mkd]

MotorsportFerrari, on 07 Nov 2014 - 18:21, said:
Ferrari confirmed that Fernando's engine had a great amount of km on it and had passed its lifetime. So no problem. For tomorrow they will fit the unit they used in Austin and for Abu-Dhabe they have a bit fresher unit.

[Winter]

MotorsportFerrari, on 07 Nov 2014 - 18:21, said:
Ferrari confirmed that Fernando's engine had a great amount of km on it and had passed its lifetime. So no problem. For tomorrow they will fit the unit they used in Austin and for Abu-Dhabe they have a bit fresher unit.

If I recall right, the engine he used Austin was very much used too? Didn't they even thought about starting from pit lane with fresh one?

[stefa]

If I recall right, the engine he used Austin was very much used too? Didn't they even thought about starting from pit lane with fresh one?

Yes you a right. I remember Ferrari saying that they even consider starting from the pit lane.

[Winter]

Yes you a right. I remember Ferrari saying that they even consider starting from the pit lane.

I don't get, why they wait until Abu Dhabi to put newer engine, what's there to save anymore?

[Nand0Nand0]

I don't get, why they wait until Abu Dhabi to put newer engine, what's there to save anymore?

Double points with the chance to move ahead of Williams.

[Alonso14]

Double points with the chance to move ahead of Williams.

Yeah but if he takes a new engine now he won't have to start from the pit in Abu Dhabi.

[Ed Harley]

"Autosport: Brazilian GP: Kimi Raikkonen much happier with Ferrari F1 car"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116693

[diesel08]

http://www.grandprix247.com/2014/11/10/ferrari-big-boss-worried-about-2015-project-troubles/

[jpalmito]

http://www.grandprix247.com/2014/11/10/ferrari-big-boss-worried-about-2015-project-troubles/

One month old story based on autosprint story.
More informative are the precises words by pat fry mouth during press conference this week end.

[nani_s23]

"Autosport: Brazilian GP: Kimi Raikkonen much happier with Ferrari F1 car"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116693
Going by his form or current ferrari form, we are not happy. But if u look at the picture it's ferrari the history, we support him & ferrari.

[VavaVettel]

"Autosport: Brazilian GP: Kimi Raikkonen much happier with Ferrari F1 car"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116693

This is cuz the car is more neutral has they are switching away from the Alonso philosophy design.

[Greig]

This is cuz the car is more neutral has they are switching away from the Alonso philosophy design.

What changes did they make to make it more neutral?

[604nick]

This is cuz the car is more neutral has they are switching away from the Alonso philosophy design.

or simply the circuit with new tarmac was grippier with soft tires which masked the issue Kimi is experiencing, coupled with a short track so the time differences weren't quite as large.

and your magically made up car is more neutral with no new parts theory is wrong

[Rob]

This is cuz the car is more neutral has they are switching away from the Alonso philosophy design.

front end more grippy with new tarmac and the soft tyres.

[Rob]

bit late...

Ferrari F14 T - 2015-focused rear wing02 November 2014
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In the United States Ferrari debuted a totally new rear wing assembly which will serve as a starting point for the solution on next year's car. New are the two, small U-shaped slots on the endplate (immediately either side of Shell logo), designed to energize the airflow on the underside of the wing's main plane where it joins the endplate. A not dissimilar solution was introduced by Red Bull (inset) earlier this year in Malaysia, though theirs did not have the Ferrari's horizontal gills at the rear of the endplate and featured different shapes to the back of the endplate and the wing's

[Rob]

Ferrari F14 T - rear brake configuration08 November 2014
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There was a lot of speculation in the United States and Brazil concerning the latest rear suspension and brake set-up on the Ferrari and its potential relevance to next year's car. The Italian team - unlike rivals Red Bull, Mercedes, McLaren, Williams and Sauber - are not using lighter 4-piston brake calipers. Instead they are employing heavier 6-piston calipers, the same as at the front of the car. As can be seen here, these are combined with a carbon drum that encloses the rear brake assembly and stops heat escaping to the outside of the wheel rim. Instead the hot air from the brakes is blown onto the inside of the wheel. This set-up helps keep the brakes at a higher temperature, which makes them more consistent.

[Rob]

Ferrari F14 T - asymmetric rear suspension08 November 2014
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On Friday in both the United States and Brazil, Kimi Raikkonen's car had asymmetric rear suspension arms (the suspension geometry was not different, only its assembly). In the inset you can see the top wishbone with a quick prototype cover (red arrows) which contains measuring sensors inside to collect data for the team's 2015 car.

[Nova]

Cool Rob thx.

[nani_s23]

Tfs rob...!!

[abbottcostello]

Ferrari F14 T - asymmetric rear suspension08 November 2014
http://i60.tinypic.com/2njyk28.jpg
On Friday in both the United States and Brazil, Kimi Raikkonen's car had asymmetric rear suspension arms (the suspension geometry was not different, only its assembly). In the inset you can see the top wishbone with a quick prototype cover (red arrows) which contains measuring sensors inside to collect data for the team's 2015 car.
Signs of Mr Allison quietly working his magic (genius) in the background? Well, at least that's what I'm hoping!

[Kiwi Nick]

Signs of Mr Allison quietly working his magic (genius) in the background? Well, at least that's what I'm hoping!

This could also make you think that Kimi is basically driving the test mule for 2015. As A/C says..."Well, at least that's what I'm hoping!"

[tifosi1993]

Yas Marina Circuit, UAE (20/11/2014)

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[20000rpm]

I hope this season gets over ASAP, enough of Ferrari rubbing its nose in the dirt.

[KimiBot]

This could also make you think that Kimi is basically driving the test mule for 2015. As A/C says..."Well, at least that's what I'm hoping!"

Kimi did say something like that about month ago. Testing different parts.

[tifosi1993]

Farewell F14T, hopefully your predecessor would be good enough and bring us some joy next year.

[Nova]

Yea, I said it in the race thread..Goodbye F14..U may close this thread Ya gotta be thinking about it :-D

[Hornet]

Time to roll the F14T into the museum at Maranello.

[F1NAC]

Time to roll the F14T into the museum at Maranello.

Maybe better in garbage

[Senna4Ever]

Too bad that you couldn't come close you made us proud ...

[ManFromMilan]

Bye bye F14T.

May we never suffer another one like you again.

[tifosi1993]

Maybe better in garbage

Dont blame the car, blame the designers.

[TonyRizza]

Dont blame the car, blame the designers.
same thing

[Alonso14]

153 pages later...still waiting for a working update. :roll

Arrivederci, F14T. :wave Can't say I'm not glad to see you go.

[roflcopter44444]

It was cursed as soon as they gave it that awful name

[SilverSpeed]

May you rust in pieces.:wave

[20000rpm]

Give it a rest guys. Why blame the car when the concept of the designers were flawed.
The car can perform only when we have an antidote for viruses like Tombasi and Fry :-P (in a lighter sense).

[The Architect]

Given development on the F138 was stopped early for that dog of a car, I dread to see what they conjure up next year. With no testing, and heavily restricted development, it has to be fast immediately or next year is going to be another write-off. Even McLaren and Force India were faster to add further insult to injury.

[Rob]

Just a shame this years F14-T was flawed even before Melbourne. Thanks FIA and Merc for engine freeze so early. Anyway, she still a Ferrari, and as bad as she was, still like her.

[Rob]

REPORTS LINK BRAWN, COSTA, BOTTAS WITH FERRARI
Sunday 23 November at 08:35 : Nov.23 (GMM) The latest names linked with Ferrari are Ross Brawn and Valtteri Bottas.

On Saturday, reports emerged that amid its thorough 2014 shakeup, the beleaguered great Ferrari could now be set to oust its new boss Marco Mattiacci.

The name linked with the job was Marlboro executive Maurizio Arrivabene.

But not only him. Britain's Sky and Germany's Auto Motor und Sport - as well as several other authoritative sources - are mentioning Briton Brawn.

Also linked with a sensational return to Maranello is Aldo Costa, who left Ferrari in 2011 and was responsible for the design of the dominant 2014 Mercedes.

The German newspaper Bild said: "We have learned that Arrivabene is not coming alone. Ross Brawn could be the new technical director."

Brawn, who has been enjoying his sabbatical since stepping down as Mercedes team boss, reportedly denied the news on Saturday.

But Bild said that is "only because Ferrari is yet to meet some of his conditions".

Italy's La Stampa said Ferrari insists it is all "just rumours".

Finally, Italiaracing reports that Ferrari is eying the impressive Williams driver Valtteri Bottas to replace his Finnish countryman Kimi Raikkonen in 2016.

http://www.onestopstrategy.com/dailyf1news/nieuw/article/23363-Reports+link+Brawn%2C+Costa%2C+Bottas+with+Ferrari .html

[eddie]

Interesting days ahead :-)

:clap

[Nero Horse]

Shouldn't have let Aldo Costa go in the first place.

[Hornet]

One would thought with Alonso and Vettel announcement, things would settle down for Ferrari. But seems like Ferrari-related rumors are going into overdrive :-E

The return of Aldo Costa is perhaps one of the wildest I've heard yet.

[FFFerrari]

Return of Costa would be bizarre, Brawn something everyone is looking for anyways and keeping sight on Bottas obvious (he was the breakout driver of the year along with Ricciardo even if not a rookie anymore).

[Ed Harley]

Just a shame this years F14-T was flawed even before Melbourne. Thanks FIA and Merc for engine freeze so early. Anyway, she still a Ferrari, and as bad as she was, still like her.
Lets hope that Eddie (=666)brings a better start for 2015.

[Ed Harley]

"Now the Scuderia’s focus is fixed firmly on 2015, starting on Tuesday when the team takes part in the final two day test session of the season here in Abu Dhabi. At the wheel of the F14 T will be Ferrari Driver Academy student Raffaele Marciello and Kimi Raikkonen."

Are the team's not allowed to test 2015 cars yet or is the 666 not ready in some state yet to be tested? Feels a bit pointless to test the F14T.

[stefa]

"Now the Scuderia’s focus is fixed firmly on 2015, starting on Tuesday when the team takes part in the final two day test session of the season here in Abu Dhabi. At the wheel of the F14 T will be Ferrari Driver Academy student Raffaele Marciello and Kimi Raikkonen."

Are the team's not allowed to test 2015 cars yet or is the 666 not ready in some state yet to be tested? Feels a bit pointless to test the F14T.

No one has new cars ready! New ones will be ready at the best mid January 2015.

[vecchiasignora]

I think vettel will bring a lot of insideneath info from red bull. That will be a lot helpful.

Maybe get rosberg next year too, to get the info of mercedes.

[Greig]

Well his inside info sure has not worked for him this year, so I doubt he will bring any real inside info.

[Ed Harley]

I think vettel will bring a lot of insideneath info from red bull. That will be a lot helpful.

Maybe get rosberg next year too, to get the info of mercedes.
RBR will not release Mr Vettel before the end of the year.

[Winter]

Lets hope that Eddie (=666)brings a better start for 2015.

:rock And he will :thumb

[Ed Harley]

:rock And he will :thumb
Theme song for the off season, prkl! :wave


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o

[stefa]

Theme song for the off season, prkl! :wave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o

I've allready said, count me in too.
HEAVY METAL :rock

[Nero Horse]

Just a shame this years F14-T was flawed even before Melbourne. Thanks FIA and Merc for engine freeze so early. Anyway, she still a Ferrari, and as bad as she was, still like her.

Yep, I completely agree. Despite the F14-T's shortcomings it's still a Ferrari and as capricious as she was, I still like her too. It was a really beautiful car, just not fast enough, unfortunately.

[Nova]

Well his inside info sure has not worked for him this year, so I doubt he will bring any real inside info.

lol, thats for sure.

[512 TR]

So, at the Abu Dhabi test it will be Kimi and the young Raffaele Marciello. I find it strange that Red Bull didn't want Sebastian to take part in the test. What could a few days early be worth? What secrets could he have brought? It's stupid and I bet all the leading figures at Red Bull think the same but the lawyers won.

[roflcopter44444]

Yep, I completely agree. Despite the F14-T's shortcomings it's still a Ferrari and as capricious as she was, I still like her too. It was a really beautiful car, just not fast enough, unfortunately.

She was prettier than all the other 2014 cars.

[20000rpm]

Every night before Tombazi and his colleagues goes to sleep he should be reminded how not to design an F1 car.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLhBiIlOlqc

[tifosi1993]

http://blog.quotidiano.net/turrini/2014/11/24/arrivabene-non-parte-male-fuori-tombazis/

Turrini: Project 666 is slower than the F14T in the simulators. Nick Tombazis is in trouble.

Seriously!? :-(:furious

[20000rpm]

http://blog.quotidiano.net/turrini/2014/11/24/arrivabene-non-parte-male-fuori-tombazis/

Turrini: Project 666 is slower than the F14T in the simulators. Nick Tombazis is in trouble.

Seriously!? :-(:furious

The earlier we get rid of him, the better it is for the future of Ferrari.

[Alonso14]

Let's not panic just yet. Firstly, we don't know how reliable is the information. Secondly, if the past 5 years are anything to go by - we CANNOT trust our simulator/wind tunnel data. :lol

[Hornet]

I think it's just rumors being repeated by these "journalist" in their own flavor. Someone had the idea to write about Ferrari's new car already failing, and we started seeing rumors about the new CEO unhappy with the car, Agnelli saying 2015 is over, people getting fired, etc.

I don't believe Ferrari can design a car that somehow is slower than the old one. Everyone will improve, it's just a matter of how much. Due to the large gap, Ferrari will need massive improvements to be competitive, which will be difficult to do quickly. But I'm sure we will improve in relative to this year's car.

[Nero Horse]

http://blog.quotidiano.net/turrini/2014/11/24/arrivabene-non-parte-male-fuori-tombazis/

Turrini: Project 666 is slower than the F14T in the simulators. Nick Tombazis is in trouble.

Seriously!? :-(:furious

Turrini really isn't the most reliable source for Ferrari news.

[eddie]

Turrini really isn't the most reliable source for Ferrari news.

Agree. But it certainly seem to echo that the Program for next year isn't very sharp. Not cut edge stuff to beat a rival who is a second a head on a hot lap.

[shamim179]

This rumor might be true. The aerodynamics might be worse as a compromise to house a larger and more powerful PU. But if our PU becomes just marginally more powerful then yes the new car might even be worse than the current one. I think it is fair to say we can write this era off. We were too unprepared.

[Kiwi Nick]

The thing about the chassis and the aero is that they can be developed from race to race during the season. The characteristics of the chassis can compliment or distract from the style of the drivers. So other than aero evaluations, it is impossible to tell exactly how the car will behave. The PU on the other hand can be evaluated on the dyno. Only the drivability of the PU will need to be proven on the track.

So, I don't worry too much about these reports that the 2015 car is slower than to F14T. Let's see how things look at the first testing session.

[Nova]

Now that the season is over, the journo's r going to be printing every rumor they can.
I look for them to be wild this off season.

[nani_s23]

Every night before Tombazi and his colleagues goes to sleep he should be reminded how not to design an F1 car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLhBiIlOlqc

That's awesome control by Alonso. No proper balance or set up, traction etc..... still his controlling F14T is superb.

[Alonso14]

That's awesome control by Alonso. No proper balance or set up, traction etc..... still his controlling F14T is superb.

I love how he powers it through on 0:23 like it's no big deal while the F14T is going to every direction but forward :-D