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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    I mean its wrong in the sense that when cars can set faster lap after doing several laps, it means the tires are too hard. Tomorrow will be a 1 stop which wasn't what they wanted.
    Well I didn't look into it, but did the teams already mentioned that it could be a 1-stopper? Or did the commentators guess that it would be? I really didn't follow the whole FPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    That is the only thing that can prolong this fight (agony) for another week.
    Now, more than ever, i'm rooting for Lewis......only he can do some damage to fingerboy

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    and one more thing is our race pace does not look better than our competitors. plus the tyre problems, i hate to say this, but i have to admit that WDC will go to the finger boy. With such car, no point to keep it to Brazil, really. Let us end it soon. Alonso just do your best, you dont owe team and fans anything. Just deliver a good show tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    The thing is, we should have won some. We have the one who is known as "best driver out there" and it is for nothing (and even he didn't show anything today...). In the last 8 years we have won just 1 WDC and that was only by an "accident", that's not something with what Ferrari can be satisfied.

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    If they wont deliver on race pace then what happened today is unacceptable at this stage of the champ. Sorry Luca but you must fire some people. The only real improvement this year was pit stop times. Andrea Stella strategic choices/decisions were at least mediocre in most of the races... and next year we wont have the excuse of the aerodynamic tunnel....enough is enough! I only feel pity for Alonso and all the effort he gave this year by driving that abomination. Ferrari's car department increased its sales in 2012.... WE got the profit so bring aboard the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F2002 View Post
    They ran in Q3 with the same tyres from Q2.

    I wonder why.
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJTaurus View Post
    If they wont deliver on race pace then what happened today is unacceptable at this stage of the champ. Sorry Luca but you must fire some people. The only real improvement this year was pit stop times. Andrea Stella strategic choices/decisions were at least mediocre in most of the races... and next year we wont have the excuse of the aerodynamic tunnel....enough is enough! I only feel pity for Alonso and all the effort he gave this year by driving that abomination. Ferrari's car department increased its sales in 2012.... WE got the profit so bring aboard the best.
    Well said my friend, well said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi_kaka View Post
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    Just heard comments from our great leader Domenicali, he said that they used the same tyres because of the tyre heating issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    The thing is, we should have won some. We have the one who is known as "best driver out there" and it is for nothing (and even he didn't show anything today...). In the last 8 years we have won just 1 WDC and that was only by an "accident", that's not something with what Ferrari can be satisfied.
    ....& yet, it seems they are helpless.........they don't want to play dirty.....neither do they want to progress.......how can a team be a sitting duck when others all around are developing so well....look at williams.....force india......where were they a few years back........?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    I agree, but at the same time, its really extreme if we cannot warm our tires up in 10 mins

    Something is wrong with the way we get the tire temp up. Seriously.
    Yep, If we cannot warm the tyres for so long period of time we will be passed by a half of the field at the start of the race...

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    With only two races left anything can happen, but i must say it really is damage limitation for fernando.

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    This whole F2012 are wrong,tomorrow it will be over for Alonso thanks to the team not giving a good qualifying car.

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    The most amazing thing is the big gap between Fernando and Felipe. There had to have been something wrong with Fernando's car or just completely different set-up.
    9th place... for a title contender *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voy View Post
    I don't wish anyone bad luck, but Vettel's DNF tomorrow is our best chance to keep WDC dream alive.
    alive just for another week? our driver deserves the WDC, but our car definitely does not. So we have to accept RBR did better job than us. we start it all over again next season.

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    What's this all about? I don't understand what's going on. The RBs and Ham. in front of us, Kimi, OK, but MSC, Hulkenburg, Grosjean?
    I suppose FA did say that our actual position was 6/7, even 8, but............... Well, good luck guys tomorrow.

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    Alonso was bad today, really bad, but the problem even with a great day from him, the car it's not there, RB it's in another planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJTaurus View Post
    If they wont deliver on race pace then what happened today is unacceptable at this stage of the champ. Sorry Luca but you must fire some people. The only real improvement this year was pit stop times. Andrea Stella strategic choices/decisions were at least mediocre in most of the races... and next year we wont have the excuse of the aerodynamic tunnel....enough is enough! I only feel pity for Alonso and all the effort he gave this year by driving that abomination. Ferrari's car department increased its sales in 2012.... WE got the profit so bring aboard the best.
    +infinity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by superwonderboy View Post
    With only two races left anything can happen, but i must say it really is damage limitation for fernando.
    What DL? What he can limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anuragiyer8989 View Post
    Now, more than ever, i'm rooting for Lewis......only he can do some damage to fingerboy
    Yes, some serious damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJTaurus View Post
    If they wont deliver on race pace then what happened today is unacceptable at this stage of the champ. Sorry Luca but you must fire some people. The only real improvement this year was pit stop times. Andrea Stella strategic choices/decisions were at least mediocre in most of the races... and next year we wont have the excuse of the aerodynamic tunnel....enough is enough! I only feel pity for Alonso and all the effort he gave this year by driving that abomination. Ferrari's car department increased its sales in 2012.... WE got the profit so bring aboard the best.
    I think it is Fry and Clark who have the final say in the strategic decisions. Looking back, we could have done better in Monaco and Canada. At the time, we didn't think much of the mistakes because the field was still tight.

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    It's past 1am here.....i'm disappointed........

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    Quote Originally Posted by superwonderboy View Post
    With only two races left anything can happen, but i must say it really is damage limitation for fernando.
    Damage limitation time is over. It's prety much podium or no WDC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi_kaka View Post
    Well I didn't look into it, but did the teams already mentioned that it could be a 1-stopper? Or did the commentators guess that it would be? I really didn't follow the whole FPs.
    I believe the comentators mentioned it in Friday after the tires were still in good shape despite everyone on the same set throughout FP1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anuragiyer8989 View Post
    ....& yet, it seems they are helpless.........they don't want to play dirty.....neither do they want to progress.......how can a team be a sitting duck when others all around are developing so well....look at williams.....force india......where were they a few years back........?!
    we did play dirty in Michael, Todd and Brawn's era. That is why almost no one can stop us for seven years. today RBR played it over again.

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    The only good thing is that only one more Vettel pole and win, and we can already start getting our hopes up again for next year. More groundhog days coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vasveras View Post
    if they don't get a fast car for next year........ I think I will quit watching F1 ....
    exactly...no improvement in any areas of the F2012!
    there were 10 days to get 10 points..what was going on those 10 days?
    wth..Ferrrari is really a huge horse in slumber!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yz2006 View Post
    alive just for another week? our driver deserves the WDC, but our car definitely does not. So we have to accept RBR did better job than us. we start it all over again next season.
    and we know how it goes. In the winter, SD says we want to start the season with the best car. We turn up at Melbourne and are a second off the pace. We catch up by mid-season, and then fall away again at the end of the season. Maybe 2014 regulations will be kinder to us. Under these regulations, Red Bull are kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anuragiyer8989 View Post
    It's past 1am here.....i'm disappointed........
    friend, it is 3 am here, very very disappointed, hit bed now. tomorrow will be a better day

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    We have a lot of work to do in 2013. Without any changes in the rules, RB keep their advantage, AND continue to push forward.
    We need to catch up, AND out do them.

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    F2012 is a dog. Period!

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