F14-T- Development & News

[PadGeT]

[gjoko-mkd]

`Silver` part is thermal protection for turbo.Now we can exactly see the position of turbo compresor

[bkircher]

I thought we were supposed to have a big update here??? Like a new nose, new front and rear wing as well??

[Kyss4k]

I'm just a lay person, but I really like the way the floviz seems to be following the contour of the sidepods now.

Also, the new sidepods are definitely different. For Montreal, the side-pods appear to extend all the way back past
the leading edge of the rear suspension members whereas, previously the sidepod bodywork stopped in front of the
rear suspension.

******* finally. Took way longer then it should.

[Nero Horse]

I thought we were supposed to have a big update here??? Like a new nose, new front and rear wing as well??

We do have a big update. Don't know about the new front wing but we have a new floor, new brakes, new engine cover, new sidepods, new rear wing and a more aggressive engine mapping.

[Kiwi Nick]

We do have a big update. Don't know about the new front wing but we have a new floor, new brakes, new engine cover, new sidepods, new rear wing and a more aggressive engine mapping.

I think that Ferrari must be happy with the aero on the front end of the car.

[PadGeT]

I think that Ferrari must be happy with the aero on the front end of the car.

No they ain't. They keep changing FW, and then decide they have to work on it a bit longer. Regarding suspensions I think they have significantly improved from the first race.

[Red is Best]

A better view here:

Monaco:

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Montreal:

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[Rosso Corsa]

The lap times from FP1 and FP2 are looking very positive, but it's the new attitude and composure of the car on the circuit that's really caught my eye. The F14T looks much more aggressive in its attack, but more stable at the same time. Well done Ferrari! Lets hope early indications are as good as they appear.

[Rishu]

Yeah, reading driver comments from both Fernando & Kimi, it seems we made a good step forward.

[Alonso14]

Yeah, reading driver comments from both Fernando & Kimi, it seems we made a good step forward.

Most of the updates won't be on the car this weekend so it's more like we made a step sideways.

[rodri12001]

Most of the updates won't be on the car this weekend so it's more like we made a step sideways.

Marc Gené has said on tv that almost all the updates have worked properly. He has also said that they are not going to use the new engine cover due to the high temperatures, as they are not confident about the reliability of the car with this element in high temperature conditions.

Finally Gené has told that Ferrari is having problems in Alonso's car with the fuel sensor, so they have a litle bit less power in his car in order to match the fuel flow measurement from the sensor, which is different than the measurement from Raikkonen's sensor (about 3km/h less than Raikkonen in the straight).

Forza Ferrari!

[bkircher]

Slow slow slow slow......

[Brakefade]

Championship is gone. We need to focus on 2015 and keeping Alonso.

[FerrariF60]

Championship is gone. We need to focus on 2015 and keeping Alonso.

yep totally true, move onto 2015 already, this season is LOST....

[PadGeT]

Lower one, I suppose, was used in Qualifying.

[Hornet]

I think it's the top one we used this weekend. Could be wrong though.

However, our experimental engine cover is certainly smaller than the top one, and the sidepod outlet extends backwards beyond the suspensions.

[PadGeT]

As most us know, whenever regulations are new, ideas are bound to be different among cars, but give it a quarter of season, and teams slowly converge in their designs. I have to hold my hand up and say "Good job Red Bull; once again you provide other teams the direction to go." Lotus, RB and TR were the only team that used radiused sidepods this season and I believe Mr. Beer is responsible for the recent tweaks we made in this regard. Since the season started, I thought we would see another Ferrari's own E20 (in terms of resemblance of E20 with RB8) in F14 T but I guess it was too early.
Now lets go on to the pics. Lots of interesting pics to compare -
Thermal camera showing the hot air exits (I dnt know when the pic eas taken,but RB exits are way cooler in comparison)

Rear design philosophy among RB-Merc-Ferrari-TR-Lotus

[Hunkelberg]

I bet u my bottom dollar, dat Ferrari will finish ahead of the best Merc customer team in WCC.
Thanks for the laugh, nywayz.

Based on what we have seen, ferrari's 2014 challenger is just a slow car. But it has to be said, reliable. This says to me that the materials they are using at maranello are top quality.

Based on the latest developments, where Renault is closing the gap in PU performance, I am more than sure RB will smoke Ferrari by the end of the year. That Ferrari PU is gutless. Just look where Sauber is in comparison to Renault powered cars. Marussia btw has done a good job with their chassis. If they were using merc PU this year they would be there in the mix with FI and Williams.

Also, lotus will be faster car by the end of season. If one of the merc customers teams get their act together I assume they will outscore Ferrari by the end of the year. So, fourth or fifth best car of the season, like for like.

but Ferrari was always associated with mediocrity...so it is unreasonable to expect any sudden turn around in form and therefore, you better find some other place for consolation :) This season will be long and painful. It is a good medicine for LdM and co. though.

ps:correct me if I am wrong, regulations say that you can not change the size of the compressor. If this is so, and current compressor is undersized, then merc, which somehow found a way to exploit its H unit bypassing energy store with allegedly bigger compressor will not be caught any time soon. Not even next year.

I wonder if your bottom dollar thingy is still on. Also what that about:

Montezemolo: Ferrari new in Canada

Envoy Autosprint in Barcelona (Spain): Alberto Antonini

There will be another Ferrari for the Canadian Grand Prix next June.

A promise it is none other than Luca di Montezemolo , who arrived in Barcelona to stay close to his team. "There are so many things to do," said the President , who is now much more involved in the practical management of the team . "Even in the relationship with suppliers, for example: Formula One new things have to get right, not in ten days. "

Do not just come once the new version of the F14 T , but there will be a lot to expect. "Here in Spain there is something new in Monte Carlo do not believe that it is worthwhile to take a lot, but in Canada we have something." There is also talk of changes important enough to "power unit" , to the extent permitted by the regulations . In addition to this, a long list of new aerodynamic .

Montezemolo also attended the meetings on cost reduction , but did not lead to permanent solutions. "It seems that someone does not convince you to cut costs before a team fails. We are opposed to the "cost cap", the roof of the costs, because we believe we can not control. But if today's exchange rate, for example, are all the same, why not adopt the same for everyone. "

http://autosprint.corrieredellosport...-canada/15285/

??? Old bloke was daydreaming ?

[Alonso14]

Any news on further PU improvement in Austria? Because the layout will punish us again like in Bahrain and Canada.

[PadGeT]

I wonder if your bottom dollar thingy is still on. Also what that about:

Dude its on like Donkey Kong!! (or whatever the proverbial term is).
I just love winning easy bets.

[Piceey]

I am very dissapointed guys,these upgrades were a totally bull**.I don't know why is Ferrari keeping Nicolas Tombazis for many years . Since 2006 the Ferrari is struggling with his cars,need to fired very quickly.I wonder if Alonso will stay with them,better to see him exit Formula 1 ,Ferrari destroying last part of his career,such a great driver.

[F1NAC]

I am very dissapointed guys,these upgrades were a totally bull**.I don't know why is Ferrari keeping Nicolas Tombazis for many years . Since 2006 the Ferrari is struggling with his cars,need to fired very quickly.I wonder if Alonso will stay with them,better to see him exit Formula 1 ,Ferrari destroying last part of his career,such a great driver.

upgrades were good but the temperatures were not.

[Piceey]

upgrades were good but the temperatures were not.

Sorry,but my opinion is, if the temperatures were not good,so the upgrades.What is Ferrari waiting for damn! It's summer,when it will be good the temperatures? LOL

[Wildcat]

If the upgrades don't work in high temperatures, they are not upgrades. Plus, it's summer god dammit :D

When will they release them ?

[F1NAC]

Sorry,but my opinion is, if the temperatures were not good,so the upgrades.What is Ferrari waiting for damn! It's summer,when it will be good the temperatures? LOL

yes but if you look this circuit is with monza one of the most stressful circuit for engines so that + high temperatures ain't gonna work

[PadGeT]

Its baffling me and yet don't have a reason for these- (If anyone has any idea please do tell)
1.For some reason F14 T doesn't bite the tarmac on hot conditions, yet turns on relatively faster than the rest when the conditions are intermediate.
2.Strange effect on slower corners and is it due to peaky curve or some separation of airflow at the back ?
Also what do they mean when Kimi says this-

"Even if at the moment, nothing seems to be going right for us, the new development package has given us more potential and now we must just try and find more consistency.” - See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/can....k8SxR7LD.dpuf

[killer]

Its baffling me and yet don't have a reason for these- (If anyone has any idea please do tell)
1.For some reason F14 T doesn't bite the tarmac on hot conditions, yet turns on relatively faster than the rest when the conditions are intermediate.
2.Strange effect on slower corners and is it due to peaky curve or some separation of airflow at the back ?
Also what do they mean when Kimi says this-

Just for number 1: maybe it's not so much the F14T being better in cooler conditions as it is everyone else needing higher temps to perform.

[Alonso14]

Its baffling me and yet don't have a reason for these- (If anyone has any idea please do tell)
1.For some reason F14 T doesn't bite the tarmac on hot conditions, yet turns on relatively faster than the rest when the conditions are intermediate.
2.Strange effect on slower corners and is it due to peaky curve or some separation of airflow at the back ?
Also what do they mean when Kimi says this-

To answer this questions accurately we need access to the telemetry and data that we don't have access to. Still, they are few possible reasons IMO

1. If you remember Sauber in 2012 had similar situation. They were flying in cool conditions and mediocre in hot. We are above average in cool conditions and pathetic in hot but you get my drift. My top reasons are: i) our rear downforce does not work as intended in the hot ii) we are slightly overheating the rear tyres and while in the cold they hit optimal temperatures when the temp raises we start to suffer.

2. Poor traction but that's not a new story. It's been the case for god know how long now. Every year it's different reasons but I'm guessing this year the reasons is a combinations between the steepness of the nose and the design of the sidepods which does not allow us to have a good flow of air towards the back.

3. Who knows what Kimi is saying? Like ever. I presume he means that the car has improved pace but he (and judging by his post-race interview - Fernando as well) suffers from balance issues which make the car unpredictable and hard to drive.

[zike]

So when we are going to fire Fry and Tombazis??????